Phase 2 with Pahse 1 headlights and grille

  1. Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 County Down Posts: 17
    #1
    Basically, im after a VTS, but finding a tidy Phase 1 with low miles is like getting a blow job from a nun...

    So, as i prefer the Phase 1 front end, i was wondering is it easy to make a Phase 2 look like its predecessor...?

    Is it basically as simple as changing the headlights, grille, bonnet and wings, or is there a difference with the front panel and slam panel around the radiator that would make it alot more costly...?

    All help appreciated

    Cheers
    Nicky
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2007 Kendal, Cumbria Posts: 2728 White mk1 VTS
    #2
    Could just get a MK1 and drop a MK2 engine in it??? or if you are really into DIY, get a mk1 and a mk1, and put all the mk2 bits on the mk1 body (like the axcles, engine, shocks etc...) just an idea
  3. Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 County Down Posts: 17
    #3
    No, i want a late Saxo chassis with much less miles than most Phase 1s are running round with, but i think the newer headlights look queer, so would prefer not to have them...

    Think its a matter or trial and error with fitting Phase 1 lights, wings, grille and bonnet to a Phase 2...

    Was just hoping someone had tried this before and knows weither or not it fits properly without a sh!t load of work...
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed
    #4
    Simple job mate, could be pricey though. Will need two new front wings, new bonnet, new grille, new slam panel, new headlights. Then spraying. Fitting would be piss easy
  5. Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 County Down Posts: 17
    #5
    You reckon its as easy as that Ben?

    Headlights are £25 new, grille is £30, slam panel is about £65 and then its just the wings and bonnet...

    Shouldnt be too expensive after all
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed
    #6
    nope its pretty simple mate, if you can get em sprayed up on mates rates your laughin
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2007 Kendal, Cumbria Posts: 2728 White mk1 VTS
    #7
    Yeh your looking at 200 tops with out the painting, would be a good progress thread, and sticky if someone else wanted to do it
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed
    #8
    Plenty of people have done it the other way round
  9. Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 County Down Posts: 17
    #9
    Aye, im going to be buying the car within the next month or so, then starting work on her, so now that im a member i'll be putting up a progress thread.. Project will last 6-8months from start to finish and will hopefully turn out as something original...

    Lets just say no rear seats, VERY subtle exterior mods, some subtle interior touches, a tidy install and a fair amoutn of engine work, yet left Naturally Aspirated...
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed
    #10
    Quick point, if your going down the NA route, single plug lumps eg MK1 and very early MK2s, seem to get better gains after camming than the 3 plug lumps of 2001 on mk2s
  11. Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 County Down Posts: 17
    #11
    Single and triple plug?

    Wee bit of help please...? lol
  12. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed
    #12
    basically all VTS engines are the same, youll prob hear some people say that some have 130 brake which is shite. But what did change was the ECU, after 2000 ish the management changed from a one plug ECU to an ECU with three plugs going into it. These dont seem to get as good gains when cammed. But theyll be in the majority of MK2s.


    Its not much different, only about 5-10 brake apparently
  13. Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 County Down Posts: 17
    #13
    Ah right.

    Was planning on the usual Supersprint 4-2-1, full S/S supersprint de-cat exhaust system, Samota Induction kit, get a mate to do a wee bit of work to the head and look at getting it remapped.

    Would like to see 140 or so with that lot done..
  14. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal
    #14
    wouldnt of thought you would get 140 with those mods, im just above that with 708s...

    wouldnt attempt to do headwork yourself unless your mate has a lot of experience, ive read that some people make them worse, personally if i was doing headwork i would be calling qep
  15. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Newcastle/ Billingham Posts: 1873 02 Gold Cleaned OEM+ VTR
    #15
    just read above that apparently alot of ppl have done it the other way mk1 to mk2 front end, anyone got any links, please?
  16. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #16
    i have done a 2-1 conversion

    there is a small amount of welding required to do it proplerly
    as on the mark 1 the inner wing has an extra bracket on the front to lenghten it to suit the mark 1

    easy to do though
  17. Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 County Down Posts: 17
    #17
    You wouldnt happen to have a pic to show where this bracket is Alex, would you...?

    Or a link detailing what you mean?

    Cheers for that
  18. L-plater Joined: May 2008 chesterfield Posts: 79 saxo vtr fiesta rs turbo
    #18
    yeah this gal i no got mk2 vtr and weve put a mk1 front end on that cos we couldnt find the mk2 front end in the right couler in the scrappy and it all fits ok just left a big gap near slam panel looks abit odd but it all lined up ok and everything so should be ok just go scrappy and get the bits and your away mate