underpowered vtr

1. paxo89 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Watford Posts: 590 Boosted 16v VTR

   #1 27th July 2008, 13:56

   ok, i have a '97 mk1 vtr which is on 66k miles, and my mate has a '00 furio with 14k miles, and in his car manages to pull away from mine
   last night on a dual carriageway, we both went side by side at about 30mph in second gear and both floored it at the same time and shifted to third at 6k rpm. in 2nd it was pretty equal, but once in 3rd gear, his furio started to pull away. this shouldn't happen right? if anything i would have thought that it would be my car that just edges it? if it makes much difference, my engine is standard and his only mod is a raceland induction kit.
   
   does anyone know what may be causing my car to lack power? any ideas would be really helpful
2. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

   #2 27th July 2008, 14:03

   because you go around flooring it everywhere and have worn the camshafts etc?
3. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #3 27th July 2008, 14:06

   best get a full service done on it. Oil, Oil filter, plugs, fuel filter etc.
   
   Probably loads of shit in the fuel filter or the oil is totally black now
4. paxo89 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Watford Posts: 590 Boosted 16v VTR

   #4 27th July 2008, 14:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by makaveli144 because you go around flooring it everywhere and have worn the camshafts etc?

   i don't though, that's the thing. i usually drive around in like 3rd or 4th trying to save fuel also i usually let the fuel run quite low, so maybe all the crap from the fuel tank is clogging the fuel filter??
5. paxo89 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Watford Posts: 590 Boosted 16v VTR

   #5 27th July 2008, 14:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush best get a full service done on it. Oil, Oil filter, plugs, fuel filter etc. Probably loads of shit in the fuel filter or the oil is totally black now

   erm i had it serviced in april, oil and air filter, oil change, new brake pads all round, didn't get the fuel filter changed though. like i said in my post above, i usually let the fuel run quite low, so do you think i could have clogged up my fuel filter with crap from the bottom of the tank? so it looks like a new fuel filter is in order
6. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

   #6 27th July 2008, 14:16

   has your mate had anything done to his?
   
   its probably down to neglecting the engine
7. paxo89 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Watford Posts: 590 Boosted 16v VTR

   #7 27th July 2008, 14:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mark51 has your mate had anything done to his? its probably down to neglecting the engine

   
   like i said in the first post, his only mod is a raceland inducion kit. as far as i know my engine is in good order, i'm the second owner, it was owned by a woman for 10 years before me, full service history, no major problems in the past. i rarely thrash my car, if i do i make sure it's warmed up first. tbh i rarely go above 3k rpm, i can't afford to waste petrol.
8. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #8 27th July 2008, 14:24

   try getting a new fuel filter on it and run it on some better petrol with the octance boost / fuel flush stuff in it aswell to clear the lines
9. paxo89 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Watford Posts: 590 Boosted 16v VTR

   #9 27th July 2008, 14:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush try getting a new fuel filter on it and run it on some better petrol with the octance boost / fuel flush stuff in it aswell to clear the lines

   
   thank you, i'll get that done asap
10. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #10 27th July 2008, 14:33

    if it aint that either your mate drives like he stole it and you cant drive or your in a massive pile of brown
11. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #11 27th July 2008, 15:39

    You have said it all if it was owned by a woman and you rarely thrash the car then it will automatically set the ecu to your driving type whats steady away, i would go get some good 10/40 semi synth oil, new fuel filter, a good set of bosch super 4 plugs, some nice super unleaded and injector cleaner in the tank, unplug your ecu and then take it for a run take it to max revs all the way upto 3 rd then give it a good long run at 70 in 5th gear
12. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #12 27th July 2008, 16:13

    My mate's Quiksilver was the same when I had my old engine with the early VTR g'box on, swap the gearbox, makes a massive difference, I really dont like the old VTR boxes at all, the ratios are all over the place.
13. smiith Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz

    #13 27th July 2008, 16:43

    i bet your mate has a vtr engine just isnt telling
14. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #14 27th July 2008, 16:48

    smiith
    
    you mean i bet he had a vtr engine
    
    you could have a furio in yours lol
15. JTC_VTR L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 Plymouth Posts: 39 Black MK2 Saxo VTS

    #15 27th July 2008, 16:50

    a vtr should pull away from a furio easy! get ur local garage to have a look at it, could be something like your fuel pump on the way out or something, and like stiffler69 said, the ecu normally adjusts to your driving style, my advice is to get some injector cleaner with a full tank of petrol, and rag the tits out of it for a few hours! must admit my car feels a bit quicker since i got it and it was previously owned by a 35yr old woman since it was new!
16. JTC_VTR L-plater Joined: Sep 2007 Plymouth Posts: 39 Black MK2 Saxo VTS

    #16 27th July 2008, 16:52

    and if you afford it, buy a vts gearbox.
17. smiith Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz

    #17 27th July 2008, 16:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Yates smiith you mean i bet he had a vtr engine you could have a furio in yours lol

    yeh changed it lololol
    
    still hunover, fingers are a few mins infront of my head
18. R15AXO L-plater Joined: Mar 2008 welling Posts: 74 saxo vtr mk2

    #18 29th July 2008, 12:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stiffler69 You have said it all if it was owned by a woman and you rarely thrash the car then it will automatically set the ecu to your driving type whats steady away, i would go get some good 10/40 semi synth oil, new fuel filter, a good set of bosch super 4 plugs, some nice super unleaded and injector cleaner in the tank, unplug your ecu and then take it for a run take it to max revs all the way upto 3 rd then give it a good long run at 70 in 5th gear

    you have actually got a good point there i know a few cars out there like that
19. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

    #19 29th July 2008, 13:07

    all i can say is unlucky
20. lukedorritt Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Rickmansworth Posts: 306 Posi Furio

    #20 30th July 2008, 16:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smiith i bet your mate has a vtr engine just isnt telling

    You bet correct mate lol