Things associated with buying cams...

1. CJ_Saxo Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 ( Not so ) Great Yarmouth Posts: 338

   #1 5th August 2008, 00:55

   Hey there,
   
   Getting a set of Cams for the VTR next month...
   
   What do i need to make them run the best they can.
   
   Obviously the cams, vernier pulley + remap
   
   Now can someone explain to me what "solid lifters" are or something like that and is there some spring things which need uprating?
2. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #2 5th August 2008, 01:00

   valve springs?
   
   obuisoly (sp) a new cambelt.
   
   re-map aswell.
   
   dont know much about the lifters
3. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

   #3 5th August 2008, 01:11

   Don't need to change valve springs unless they aint in good shape.
   
   When I planned on changing the cam on my VTR, I was going to use an ax gti head and replace the valve oil stem seals, head gasket, water pump, timing belt and tensioner and cam seal. No point in taking things apart and not making sure they're all good. Although in the end I sold the car so have a pretty much new head with most of those parts lying about lol
   
   Then you need a remap, standalone or piggy back really once you have put it all together again.
   
   And Vtr is cam really not cams.
4. CJ_Saxo Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 ( Not so ) Great Yarmouth Posts: 338

   #4 5th August 2008, 01:17

   I know its only the single cam mate, just wrotes cams ( don't know why)
   
   But surely i won't need standalone just yet, i could put the cams on, vernier pulley + new cam belt or whatever get it remapped and it should be ok. Not fussed if the idle is a little dodgey, don't even think they make to lairy a cam for 8v do they?
5. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

   #5 5th August 2008, 01:53

   U will need:
   
   The cam!
   Vernier pulley!
   Headgasket Kit!
   
   Dont really need solid lifters unless your buying a race cam!
6. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #6 5th August 2008, 08:45

   you can get a very lairy camshaft for the 8v if you so wish
   What you need is fully dependant on the camshaft choice but as you most likely will be wanting a road spec camshaft then most likely you can run standard springs, followers etc.
   A vernier pulley makes setup a damn sight easier though it can be done without. They are not too expensive for 8v's either as you only need one.
   Get a new cambelt without question.
   
   Race cams run at very high rpm and springs cannot cope with the camshaft shape (you get valve bounce) so you need a slightly different setup in the head. The shocking thing is the extra parts are usually more expensive than the camshaft(s)
7. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #7 5th August 2008, 16:43

   id get a high lft cam
8. pjm300 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 Potters Bar United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2749 T/B'd VTS

   #8 5th August 2008, 16:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 id get a high lft cam

   that doesnt really narrow it down...
9. Dasher_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Swanley,Kent Posts: 866 saxo vtr

   #9 5th August 2008, 20:04

   is a 285 a race cam?
10. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #10 5th August 2008, 20:10

    Quote:

    What do i need to make them run the best they can.

    the search button works well
11. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #11 5th August 2008, 20:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dasher_VTR is a 285 a race cam?

    a piper 285 isnt
12. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #12 5th August 2008, 20:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 id get a high lft cam

    lol, so which cam out of every aftermaket cam do you suggest?
13. Dasher_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Swanley,Kent Posts: 866 saxo vtr

    #13 5th August 2008, 20:13

    just checkin i didn't think it was
14. Dasher_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Swanley,Kent Posts: 866 saxo vtr

    #14 5th August 2008, 20:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts lol, so which cam out of every aftermaket cam do you suggest?

    piper 285 with remap and vernier pulley gave me 122bhp.
15. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #15 5th August 2008, 20:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dasher_VTR just checkin i didn't think it was

    a piper 285 is around 260 degrees.
    
    a real 285 is getting there but 300 + is
16. darkslag72 Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 Harrietsham/Lenham Posts: 1388 106 xsi

    #16 5th August 2008, 20:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T Don't need to change valve springs unless they aint in good shape. When I planned on changing the cam on my VTR, I was going to use an ax gti head and replace the valve oil stem seals, head gasket, water pump, timing belt and tensioner and cam seal. No point in taking things apart and not making sure they're all good. Although in the end I sold the car so have a pretty much new head with most of those parts lying about lol Then you need a remap, standalone or piggy back really once you have put it all together again. And Vtr is cam really not cams.

    
    he could be talkin about the lobes the would make it cams lol. just say camshaft. safes confusion lolerness.