which induction kit do i buy???

1. Metal_Face Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Hullbridge, essex Posts: 262 2007 audi tt coupe & 2008 honda crv

   #1 18th August 2008, 15:02

   Hi all, just a quick question.......as you can see from the title im not sure which induction kit to buy!! i was gunna get the enclosed raceland 1 from kam racing but then a couple of mates told me they dont fit that great and they wouldnt recomend them. just seeing what your thoughts were and if possible could you recomend others just for comparison?
   
   Thanks
2. CoolC Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Swindon Posts: 1569 Jap Import Supra 3.0TT 430bhp 6sp

   #2 18th August 2008, 15:20

   Theres a good guide on here somewhere on how to fit raceland propperly
   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=118619
   Look through that link.
   Raceland's are a good one to choose but theres so many on the market offering different kinds of induction, its really up to you. Alot of people go for raceland so i spose its got to be pritty good
3. steev911 Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 Newcastle Posts: 29 Citroen Saxo VTR Phase 2

   #3 18th August 2008, 17:31

   Others you could consider would be;
   
   Pipercross Viper, or CDA, these are the only other ones i have seen and heard fitted.
   
   I Viper gives a really deap roar but it depends what your after.
4. posi_saxo Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 swadlincote Posts: 152 Saxo VTR

   #4 18th August 2008, 20:41

   i have a BMC DIA, performace wise u can notice it a bit on acceleration, especially on a cold morning! its not very loud either, u can only really hear it when u put your foot down, depends what you want
5. Metal_Face Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Hullbridge, essex Posts: 262 2007 audi tt coupe & 2008 honda crv

   #5 18th August 2008, 22:43

   hadnt found that guide before coolc! that was quite helpful as i got to see why people say it doesnt fit properly (as the guide shows)....the guide was done on a mk1 though, i have a 2002 mk2 vtr, is the engine layout much different?
   
   thanks for the recomendations steev but they were a bit out of my price range, im looking to spend about £100.
   
   Im looking for something that aids performance a bit and also gives a nice sound.
   
   thanks for your help so far guys
6. steev911 Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 Newcastle Posts: 29 Citroen Saxo VTR Phase 2

   #6 19th August 2008, 00:01

   Right mate. First things first, you will only ever get minimal performance gains from an induction kit.
   
   Lots of manufacturers and shops claim big power gains "10bhp from fitting a viper to a 1.1 saxo!" Truth is, it doesnt and really only improves the responsiveness of the engine slightly. (How freely it revs and the time it takes to do something after putting your boot down.)
   
   You may hear a few people mention "heat soak" this "phenomenon" is where the air in the engine bay is heated by the engine and therefore renders open filters pointless! (As they are gettin warmer air instead of cooler, more dense air.) This is not true so long as the car is moving, as soon as it is moving cool air pushes the warm air out of the engine bay. Hence why you see open filters on say, Skylines!
   
   If you want a filter that makes a shit load of noise and improves the performance pretty much as much as the next filter i would recommend an open pipercross!
   
   However, if you want to take the tunung of your car a lot further, an enclosed may give you that extra 0.2 of a bhpto get over a big boundary say 150bhp.
   
   End of the day mate they all pretty much gonna do the same job in a 1.1 - 1.6!
   
   
7. Metal_Face Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Hullbridge, essex Posts: 262 2007 audi tt coupe & 2008 honda crv

   #7 19th August 2008, 11:24

   thanks for the info steev, im a bit of a noob and reading so many conflicting things on here!! its all getting a bit confusing! lol dont have any plans for major mods so ill probably just stick with the open induction kit.
8. collinsd70 Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Swindon/Wiltshire Posts: 317 I Can Haz Saxo VT-Arrgh

   #8 19th August 2008, 11:25

   the raceland looks amazing but takes a bit of work to fit, doesnt include all parts needed either
9. steev911 Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 Newcastle Posts: 29 Citroen Saxo VTR Phase 2

   #9 19th August 2008, 12:42

   Glad i could help!
   
   I hate it when people ask for advice and only get half or less of the info!
10. megabob Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Camborne Posts: 287 Saxo VTR

    #10 19th August 2008, 16:52

    the enclosed induction kit from kam-racing is great if you are on a budget but yeah you do need to do a little modification to get it to fit as it’s a universal kit so it was designed for all saxo's and 106's but if you get some extra silicone hose you'll be fine and you'll save yourself quite a bit
11. JC-Furio Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5302 Helicopter

    #11 19th August 2008, 17:10

    Enclosed are more 'efficient' so to say, as the heat soak is eliminated. Although if an open filter is placed well, will virtually have no heat soak either.
    
    End of the day they only add maybe 1bhp, just effects the throttle response. Just depends if you want looks in your engine bay or not... If not, you could just get a simple Green panel replacement filter to do virtually the same job for a third of the price.
12. Metal_Face Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Hullbridge, essex Posts: 262 2007 audi tt coupe & 2008 honda crv

    #12 19th August 2008, 18:02

    thanks for all the comments guys, think im just gunna go with the raceland enclosed for kam racing. im a bloody engineer so i dunno why im moaning about having to make a few extra mods to it! lol
    
    dont get paid till the end of the week so any of suggestions are still welcome as i wont be buying anything till friday at the earliest.
    
    cheers guys