upgrading brakes?

20th August 2008, 00:15

does anyone no what the price will be to upgrade the brakes on my 1.1 cuz im gettin a vts lump dropped in? and is it possible to put in abs system? or is this expensive?

20th August 2008, 00:21

Rule 1 of dropping a VTS lump into a saxo 1.1 - Don't bother.

20th August 2008, 00:22

why? whats wrong wit doin that?

20th August 2008, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders0n

Rule 1 of dropping a VTS lump into a saxo 1.1 - Don't bother.

Rule 2: dont listen to you.

VTS in 1.1 = StreetSleeper...

Sleepers = Cool.

You could look at getting a VT Rear axle to convert to disks... and then maybe get calipers off a citroen berlingo van, which are 266mm disks, which will give upgrades in braking

20th August 2008, 00:36

whats a street sleeper lol how mucj you thinkin thatl cost?

20th August 2008, 00:37

Or 206 gti front calipers.

I wouldn't say you need a rear disc conversion, minimal braking is done at the rear so drums will be adequate. I'm not sure on what size the anti roll bar is on the base models so that could be worth looking into, VTR/S ones are 22mm.

20th August 2008, 00:38

StreetSleeper is say a standard looking 1.1, with a vts engine, which isnt purely to be used on track

and you could pick calipers up from a scrappy from maybe 25-30 quid per caliper, fit them yourself, only 2 bolts either side, disks and pads 60 quid for the pair maybe, then if you want a VT axle, your looking at 150-200 for the axle, and maybe another 100 fitting, depending who fits it

20th August 2008, 00:39

yer they would be nice. and yer probs be best if i get back disc conversion aswell enit?

20th August 2008, 00:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDID

Or 206 gti front calipers.

I wouldn't say you need a rear disc conversion, minimal braking is done at the rear so drums will be adequate. I'm not sure on what size the anti roll bar is on the base models so that could be worth looking into, VTR/S ones are 22mm.

you go to a scrappy and mention GTI parts, and instantly the price rises, say you want van calipers, you get em at normal price

and if you are uprating brakes, might aswell have disks on the back, since they do a fair bit more braking than drums

20th August 2008, 00:42

what will happen if i dont change the breaks? will it jus not be safe atall llol

20th August 2008, 00:44

I'd imagine they would do the same amount of braking, where drums struggle is with heat dissipation rather than braking force. Only about 10% of braking is done on the rear I think.

As for the gti brakes, just giving options. The scrappys near me seem to think all parts are worth far more than their real value, some of it isn't far off brand new parts from gsf or ecp.

20th August 2008, 00:49

does any citroen van callipers fir my saxo the? cuz i dont wana get the wrong ones lol

20th August 2008, 00:52

most should dude, and i thought it was 30% breaking to the back and 70% to the front? i may be wrong though.

but best to look for berlingo calipers dude, the 266mm disk calipers

id say defo get disks on the back though, you will feel the difrence in stopping distances.

and if you dont uprate, it will just put alot more strain on your braking system to stop you

20th August 2008, 00:54

citoren berlingo! any preferences on the year or does it nnot matter

20th August 2008, 00:56

dont think it will matter dude, but if you get a choice, newer will be better, because its a newer part and wont be as worn or corroded

20th August 2008, 00:59

ok will have to go and explore on weekend, do i get the discs and callipers of the berlingo? or is it best to by the discs new?

20th August 2008, 01:15

might aswell get the disks new, there not hugely exspencive for the parts, so might aswell just get new and have piece of mind

20th August 2008, 01:17

yer what size will i need if i get the berlingo callipers? any idea on price?

20th August 2008, 01:20

266mm disks

20th August 2008, 01:21

cheers m8 repped!

20th August 2008, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by smiith

Rule 2: dont listen to you.

Of course, I have no idea what I'm on about, it makes perfect financial sense!

To put it simply, so much stuff needs to be changed it's just completely not worth it. The most sensible option would be to just buy a VTR/S to start with.

20th August 2008, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders0n

Of course, I have no idea what I'm on about, it makes perfect financial sense!

To put it simply, so much stuff needs to be changed it's just completely not worth it. The most sensible option would be to just buy a VTR/S to start with.

everything about financial sence?

how many people have turbo VTR's... go tell them to drop a S in... you do it to be different, not to save pennies.

20th August 2008, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by smiith

everything about financial sence?

In the current financial climate, yes.

We're talking about dropping a VTS lump into a 1.1, if he wants to waste his money and have all the extra hassle of doing this, just to be "different", then that's his call, but I still stand by my opinion that's it's pointless, especially when he could driving round in a VTS for the same money which after all that, would still be the better car.

20th August 2008, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders0n

In the current financial climate, yes.

We're talking about dropping a VTS lump into a 1.1, if he wants to waste his money and have all the extra hassle of doing this, just to be "different", then that's his call, but I still stand by my opinion that's it's pointless, especially when he could driving round in a VTS for the same money which after all that, would still be the better car.

go tell that the the VTS powered AX owners

see where they tell you to go

20th August 2008, 23:06

smiths spot on with his comment its like saying why buy a cosworth and spend £40,000when you can get a seond hand ferrari everyone's different and has different goals
Sully

20th August 2008, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by smiith

go tell that the the VTS powered AX owners

see where they tell you to go

They can "tell me where to go" all day long but my opinion will still remain the same. They can keep ploughing money into a shed all they like, doesn't affect me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaxoSully

smiths spot on with his comment its like saying why buy a cosworth and spend £40,000when you can get a seond hand ferrari everyone's different and has different goals
Sully

No it's not, the money involved and types of owners are completely different to those owning 1.1 Saxo's. But your second bit is completely correct, everyone is different and everyone has different goals.

20th August 2008, 23:45

now look what ive started lol

21st August 2008, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders0n

They can "tell me where to go" all day long but my opinion will still remain the same. They can keep ploughing money into a shed all they like, doesn't affect me.

No it's not, the money involved and types of owners are completely different to those owning 1.1 Saxo's. But your second bit is completely correct, everyone is different and everyone has different goals.

they may "plough money into sheds" but then again, them sheds usualy go faster than a vts

people are diffrent, and have opinions, but you were telling him he is stupid for what he wants to do.
maybe the lad likes how his shell looks, maybe likes the 1.1 shape more than the VT...

21st August 2008, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by smiith

they may "plough money into sheds" but then again, them sheds usualy go faster than a vts

people are diffrent, and have opinions, but you were telling him he is stupid for what he wants to do.
maybe the lad likes how his shell looks, maybe likes the 1.1 shape more than the VT...

What does that matter? We're not debating how to go faster than a VTS.

Where have a told him he's stupid for what he wants to do? Go on, find me the post. I said it's pointless I my opinion.

Christ!

21st August 2008, 17:00

well calling people stupid for wanting to be diffrent is been a wanker tbh.

your stupid for having a mk2, clearly a girls car

21st August 2008, 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by smiith

well calling people stupid for wanting to be diffrent is been a wanker tbh.

your stupid for having a mk2, clearly a girls car

The irony!!! Haha

You've quite clearly confirmed yourself as being mentally challenged. I haven't called anyone stupid anywhere have I? So jog on sonny jim!!

Thanks for the insults btw, much appreciated.

21st August 2008, 18:48

jp mate if you want something that is nice and easy to do then just get 266mm brake setup, braided lines, new fluid and good discs and pads that will do you fine for fast road lane driving.

Normal 247mm 16v brakes aint that bad either if you got good discs and pads on there.

Do the 16v conversion bit of fun unsuspecting scalps for you, alternatively turbo it!

22nd August 2008, 00:42

could anyoneone give me a list of all the things i buy and replace to do to upgrade on the brakes please?