1.4 in 1.1

1. 1100desire Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 West Bromwich Posts: 828

   #1 20th September 2008, 17:55

   If my friend was to put a 1.4 in a 1.1 and didnt change it on the logbook would anyone know and would it get through the mot etc alright ?
2. Ben Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost

   #2 20th September 2008, 17:56

   Depends if he tells the MOT tester about it, otherwise it will probably fail on emissions, or only just scrape through
3. 1100desire Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 West Bromwich Posts: 828

   #3 20th September 2008, 18:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bensambrook Depends if he tells the MOT tester about it, otherwise it will probably fail on emissions, or only just scrape through

   would the mot tester create a stink about it , is it just better to come clean and have it documented as a 1.4 or 1.6 depending on engine I can get also if for instance it had a 1.6 in it would that be the same as vtr insurance
   ?
4. Ben Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost

   #4 20th September 2008, 18:02

   Dunno man, lol when i had mine tested it should of failed on the emissions but i knew they guy so he let me off. But yeah if you declared it the insurance would be the same as the engine thats been put in it
5. 1100desire Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 West Bromwich Posts: 828

   #5 20th September 2008, 18:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bensambrook Dunno man, lol when i had mine tested it should of failed on the emissions but i knew they guy so he let me off. But yeah if you declared it the insurance would be the same as the engine thats been put in it

   cheers pal, repped :-)
6. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #6 20th September 2008, 18:07

   If the MOT tester looks at the engine number like they should then it will fail too. But saying that very few MOT tester ever does as they tend to just read it off the vin.
   
   Its a little harder with a 1.6 in a 1.1 than a 1.4 in there. Many 1.4s look a lot like many of the 1.1s. Not all but most of them do. Where as all the 1.6s look totally different than all the 1.1s. For instance one is made out of iron and one is made out of alloy. There are many other differences too.
   
   I would recommend declaring all mods on the log book and insurance. Firstly because you legally have to and secondly if you don't your not inshured
7. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #7 20th September 2008, 18:15

   my 1.4 looks like another vtr engine
8. user_26188 Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Durham Posts: 2094 Mk1 Vtr

   #8 20th September 2008, 18:17

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by 1100desire If my friend was to put a 1.4 in a 1.1 and didnt change it on the logbook would anyone know and would it get through the mot etc alright ?

   like hwo you say its for a friend then later I lol
   just get somone you know at a garage to test it
9. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #9 20th September 2008, 18:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by db_sax my 1.4 looks like another vtr engine

   The Citroen AX GTI 1.4 and Peugeot 106 XSI 1.4 look like some of the early 8V 1.6s yes. Most of the other 1.4s have totally difference engine block, cylinder head, sump, inlet manifold, throttle body, fuel injection system and so. Come to think of it some do have the same rocker cover I guess that could throw some people?
10. wigansaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 wigan Posts: 3787 citroen saxo 1.1 forte(sold) sierra sapphire 1.8 v

    #10 20th September 2008, 18:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 1100desire If my friend was to put a 1.4 in a 1.1 and didnt change it on the logbook would anyone know and would it get through the mot etc alright ?

    o ya friend? lol
11. Matt67 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2008 Kent Posts: 2653 1.6 16v C2 GT

    #11 20th September 2008, 18:54

    tell your "friend" to do the job properly and plant a vts lump in there, sure the insurance is a stinger, worth it though imo
12. wigansaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 wigan Posts: 3787 citroen saxo 1.1 forte(sold) sierra sapphire 1.8 v

    #12 20th September 2008, 18:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Matt67 tell your "friend" to do the job properly and plant a vts lump in there, sure the insurance is a stinger, worth it though imo

    loool.......
13. Matt67 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2008 Kent Posts: 2653 1.6 16v C2 GT

    #13 20th September 2008, 19:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wigansaxo loool.......

    im not implying anything, just think its a bit coincidental he posted this thread about the 1.1 conversion and he drives a 1.1 as well, but hey who cares!
14. EckMcMann Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 132

    #14 21st September 2008, 11:45

    Is it really worth the difference on your insurance? If you crash and claim on your insurance, you'll get busted for no insurance and have to pay for the damages!