BHP for vtr

29th September 2008, 20:09

hey guys im looking to get as much out of the vtr as i can iv not got alot of money but some to start gettin the ball moving, iv got the exhaust system put on and im going for a green pannel filter with pipercross hoses feeding air into it, im also looking into getting an ashley manifold 4-1 and also in the near future gettin dropped 40mm, has any body got any ideas or help to poss give me a bit more BHP??

29th September 2008, 20:13

vts conversion

29th September 2008, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by nazz1

vts conversion

would love one but not got the money at the min lol how much is it to get hold of a vts engine? got any other ideas i can do the engine i got at the min?

29th September 2008, 20:19

approx £1000 all in from us.

If you plan to VTS it leave it as it is for now and start saving.

29th September 2008, 20:22

start saving and drive as little as poss lol i have had a look at cams for it aswell but not sure if there is a gain or not?

29th September 2008, 20:24

for the money you would spend on cams and mapping you may aswel go and get a vts mate

29th September 2008, 20:28

iv got them mapping done for 299 but have not got a clue on the cams really starting to think bout the conversion or to just go on the body mods but i want to keep subtle and discrete if i can?

29th September 2008, 20:29

plus with the vts lump its standard at around the 120bhp mark, add cams and some head work with a remap with the exhaust(manifold back) and a decent air filter and you could look around the 140-150bhp mark. maybe a little more.

29th September 2008, 20:31

the only prob i got is saving for the conversion lol

29th September 2008, 20:55

if your like me mate and cant save for poo lol then do what im doing i got 250-300 a month to spend on mods

plans are

bmc induction kit
cam
4-2-1 manifold
decat
full system
and remap after all parts are fitted

also a S1 box which is said to be a better ratio and faster off the mark

im unsure what parts will see bhp wise but ive been lookig at engine mods for ages and this seems to have alot of solid power

as ive said very new to saxos and just readin stickys and old threads

what bhp is yours ??

29th September 2008, 20:59

also consider stripping the rear if thats a option??? makeing lighter always helps

also read that closed air induction kits work a treat as u dont get heat soak etc making for better gains prob wouldnt sound as loud but then its performance u want

and is is 421 manifolds that giv ur better acceliration or 4-1 ?? i cant rember

hope this helps newbi myself

29th September 2008, 22:09

If your talking that sort of money I would say boost your VTR. It will get you much more power than a VTS swap would and its a lot easier to get more power out of a boosted engine later down the line when you have a bit more to spend.

29th September 2008, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXracing

If your talking that sort of money I would say boost your VTR. It will get you much more power than a VTS swap would and its a lot easier to get more power out of a boosted engine later down the line when you have a bit more to spend.

aint you looking over 2500? to turbo your motor properly? low comp pistons n steel rods are over 900 alone + turbo, manifold, boost pipes, inter cooler ect

29th September 2008, 23:17

most important part of modding a car is knowing the consequences of the insurance premium! make sure you can afford the new premium before the new parts!

30th September 2008, 04:30

I got 103.2bhp @ the fly (estimated) with an open Green filter, semi-heatwrapped Raceland mani, and decat, although my engine management light was on, so somethings wrong somewhere (whether its losing me power or not I dunno).

So dont expect that much from the simple breathing mods. Next things up from there are a cam, headwork, bodies/carbs, or forced induction

30th September 2008, 10:54

Breather mods wont get you much extra performance just a better throttle response imo...if you want real power from the VTR youre looking at cams with TBs or forced induction.

30th September 2008, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaldzieVTR

if your like me mate and cant save for poo lol then do what im doing i got 250-300 a month to spend on mods

plans are

bmc induction kit
cam
4-2-1 manifold
decat
full system
and remap after all parts are fitted

also a S1 box which is said to be a better ratio and faster off the mark

im unsure what parts will see bhp wise but ive been lookig at engine mods for ages and this seems to have alot of solid power

as ive said very new to saxos and just readin stickys and old threads

what bhp is yours ??

not sure on the bhp its going on the rolling road to see what the decat/straight through has done with the pannel filter and hose not really sure what ot be looking at it was 100 when i got according to the chap before and that just had a back box on it.

30th September 2008, 12:42

the cams look like the next option after the manifold but not sure what o be paying or which to get?

8th October 2008, 15:43

any ideas on costs on cams??

8th October 2008, 17:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by fergie458

any ideas on costs on cams??

cam - £194 - £239 (kam racing)

then a remap at around £450, then fitting, so about ~£800

8th October 2008, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peasnall

cam - £194 - £239 (kam racing)

then a remap at around £450, then fitting, so about ~£800

so around £200 for the cam, i can get a remap for £250, is it a tough job to get it fitted?

8th October 2008, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by fergie458

so around £200 for the cam, i can get a remap for £250, is it a tough job to get it fitted?

as with everything in life, easy when you know how, i wouldnt attempt it if your not sure mate.

8th October 2008, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peasnall

as with everything in life, easy when you know how, i wouldnt attempt it if your not sure mate.

faire enough i got a tunning shop close buy that normally do stuff on the cheap for me lol wiv the amount of time i spend in the place lol, will the cam cause any damage to the emisions of the car?

8th October 2008, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by fergie458

faire enough i got a tunning shop close buy that normally do stuff on the cheap for me lol wiv the amount of time i spend in the place lol, will the cam cause any damage to the emisions of the car?

if mapped correctly emissions wont be a problem mate.

8th October 2008, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peasnall

if mapped correctly emissions wont be a problem mate.

good good will having the cam in with the manifold attached to my straight through give a bit more bhp?

8th October 2008, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by fergie458

good good will having the cam in with the manifold attached to my straight through give a bit more bhp?

cam, mapped, 4-2-1 manifold and straight through will give say +25bhp although im not familiar with vtr's so dont quote me on that.

8th October 2008, 18:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peasnall

cam, mapped, 4-2-1 manifold and straight through will give say +25bhp although im not familiar with vtr's so dont quote me on that.

well thats better than what it started with its also got new spark plugs but not sure of they will actually do anything, im also looking at a little thing that reduces the throttle response but need to look in to that one aswell.

20th October 2008, 21:06

iv found that device that sharpens up the throttle response its £90 it redeuces the response time for pedal to go basically and is ment to make the drive smoother thorugh out the gears