What power do throttlebodies normally put out???

1. pug205gti87 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Birmingham, West Midlands Posts: 704 Saxo Vts

   #1 30th September 2008, 16:37

   Im thinking of soon to be doin a sh*t load of work to the vts soon..
   
   im gonna whip the engine out get bigger valves put in port and polish and then some 809's and throttlebodies.. wats the average sort of power people push when all this is done?? and does anyone know what sort of times will it be doing 1/4 mile in??
2. pug205gti87 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Birmingham, West Midlands Posts: 704 Saxo Vts

   #2 30th September 2008, 16:51

   come on someone must know??!!
3. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #3 30th September 2008, 16:53

   how long is a piece of string for just ftting bodies?
   
   after spec listed you are talking solid lift camshaft grind, valve cut outs (so might as well go forgies) etc...
   
   so between 180-190 if done correctly
4. pug205gti87 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Birmingham, West Midlands Posts: 704 Saxo Vts

   #4 30th September 2008, 16:54

   y be a dik??
5. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

   #5 30th September 2008, 16:56

   Ryan isnt being a dick...he is telling the truth.
   
   You cannot put a figure on it matey
   
   EDIT - check vtr130 progress thread...he has a throttlebodied VTS and does 1/4mile runs...search for his progress thread
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 30th September 2008, 16:56

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by pug205gti87 y be a dik??

   see edit.
   
   pressed enter by mistake.
   
   also txt spk iz 4 coks
7. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #7 30th September 2008, 16:56

   hows he being a dick??
   
   hes trying to help you mate, your speaking to someone who has had expierience with bodies
8. pug205gti87 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Birmingham, West Midlands Posts: 704 Saxo Vts

   #8 30th September 2008, 16:57

   thats all i wanted to know.. 180 sounds quite nice really
9. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #9 30th September 2008, 16:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by pug205gti87 thats all i wanted to know.. 180 sounds quite nice really

   not cheap if doing it though.
   
   Foged pistons, headwork and solid lifters are not cheap from any respectable tuner.
10. pug205gti87 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Birmingham, West Midlands Posts: 704 Saxo Vts

    #10 30th September 2008, 16:59

    ye ye ill be doin it myself so no labour charges
11. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

    #11 30th September 2008, 16:59

    just the noise factor is why people mainly get it isnt it?
12. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #12 30th September 2008, 17:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pug205gti87 ye ye ill be doin it myself so no labour charges

    price of parts are not penuts though.
13. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #13 30th September 2008, 17:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Raz just the noise factor is why people mainly get it isnt it?

    nope.
    
    the ability to run wilder camshafts and enable equal airflow to each cylinder.
    
    better throttle response and if set up correctly a good idle
14. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #14 30th September 2008, 18:25

    A good ported head can see significant gains in the same way a poor head can loose you power in the same way a good interdependent throttle body can gain or loose you power. Its not even only down to just how good it is it can also be down to suitability. Start using to big or to small throttle bodies or to big or to small injectors and no matter how well made they are you will still get problems. Probably one of the most critical things is engine management and mapping. It does not matter how good the rest of the engine is as this one thing can make or brake a engine. Just look at John from GMC old 1360cc 8V at the SSC track day that ran rings round most peoples tuned VTSs. Or the old UK DP Saxos with only a small basic turbo setup slaughtering cars with much larger turbos, stand alone management and even N20. Most of the time its not what you have done but rather how well you have done it.