News : Wilwood 4 Pot *CLOSED - PLEASE LOCK*

  1. #1
    Price

    BK38A = Brake Kit with 285mm plain discs and no pads £319.20 plus vat
    (375.06 inc vat)

    150-8946K = Wilwood fast road Smart Pads £22.30 set plus vat (£26.20 set inc
    vat)

    XDG = Extra charge for Drilled / Grooved Discs £26.00 pair plus vat (£30.55
    pair inc vat)

    S1 = Front braided hoses to suit above £16.50 each hose plus vat (£19.39
    each inc vat)

    Carriage £9.50 plus vat (£11.16 inc vat) This is UK mainland only.
    Scotlands highlands and islands are not included and Northern Ireland and
    Eire are not included. Carriage to any place other than UK mainland to be
    quoted at time of ordering.

    These are prices including the discount, thought it would have been cheaper then that tbh.

    If people on the list can pm me what they are after (but try not to spam me with questions) then i can forward these onto scott.

    The List
    1. Steve_VTS - Order Confirmed
    2. The_Notorious_C_A_T - Order Confirmed
    3. Lcheater *
    4. turbotom *
    5. Groomster-VTS *
    6. Saxo_89 *
    7. Dibz *
    8. CJonny *
    9. Cal * (Clio 182)
    10. Yates *
    11. Nick_106 - Order Confirmed
    12.Spudley21*
  2. #2
    It would be a good idea to find out what discount is available Vs the number of packages purchased.
  3. #3
    i forgot to post price be around £325 - £350 would have thought, thats what it was last year iirc and they have put their prices down since
  4. #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    It would be a good idea to find out what discount is available Vs the number of packages purchased.
    if you read what i said am waiting for them to confirm if we get discount for more people

    only expecting 2 - 4 people in total, people like samcook who pm'd me a while back.
  5. #5
    I am interested, but i have a few questions:

    1. What is included? - i.e is it everything needed to convert?
    2. What is the retail price?
    3. What is the confirmed group buy price?

    Once I know the answers i will be able to let you know if i am in or out. Cheers
  6. #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lcheater View Post
    I am interested, but i have a few questions:

    1. What is included? - i.e is it everything needed to convert?
    2. What is the retail price?
    3. What is the confirmed group buy price?

    Once I know the answers i will be able to let you know if i am in or out. Cheers
    1. Calipers/Pads/Discs/Mounting Brackets - will need to buy braided lines which are £30ish
    2. £399 excl Vat + delivery
    3. Waiting for him to confirm it, last years was £425 iirc

    Main reason for the thread so far is to see how many numbers i get and if we get more discount for more members
  7. #7
    what colour are they
  8. #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    what colour are they
    more of a dark purple, suppose you could paint them but i wont be lol


    from Wolze of ssc


    from GT3 of ssc
  9. #9
    i would be interested mate just depending on a definate price, i no that you dont no it yet so i will keep my eyes on this thread!!
  10. #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    1. Calipers/Pads/Discs/Mounting Brackets - will need to buy braided lines which are £30ish
    2. £399 excl Vat + delivery
    3. Waiting for him to confirm it, last years was £325 iirc

    Main reason for the thread so far is to see how many numbers i get and if we get more discount for more members
    What about carriers?

    Also, is the Group buy price (lets say it is £325), is that inclusive of VAT and delivery? If it is, thats a saving of around £150 compared to the retail price!
  11. #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lcheater View Post
    What about carriers?

    Also, is the Group buy price (lets say it is £325), is that inclusive of VAT and delivery? If it is, thats a saving of around £150 compared to the retail price!

    there is no carriers, well you can class the mounting braket as the carrier.
    As above i am waiting for him to confirm the prices this thread is so far to gauge interest levels.

    I cant remember how much it was last year, it could be £425 but for some reason i have that price in my head waiting on pred posting as he sorted it last year.

    total price delievered i think will be around £350

    ssc got 20% off last year.
  12. #12
    interested, just can we get drilled nad grooved disks?

    As want to keep the weight down as much as possible as my 283mm normal setup was pretty heavy stuff.

    But £325 is much better than the £600 for ap at big brakes 4u!
  13. #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    interested, just can we get drilled nad grooved disks?

    As want to keep the weight down as much as possible as my 283mm normal setup was pretty heavy stuff.

    But £325 is much better than the £600 for ap at big brakes 4u!
    you can get drilled and grooved discs for an extra £26 excl vat.

    Wilwoods are very light compared to standard calipers

    They have a quick release system, pads can literally be changed in 5 minutes.

    These are for the midilite calipers they do dynalites which are cheaper (listed under the 106 but they are teh same car ) only difference's i can find are the dynalites dont have dust seals, but everyone i spoke to say teh midilites dont have dust seals but waiting for all that to be confirmed
  14. #14
    excellent mate.

    I love group buys, if there's one on the go have to get in on the action like

    Don't worry about funding though mate, I'm good to my word.

    Unless this takes like 3 months then hell with that, well maybe even if it takes 3 months lol
  15. #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    excellent mate.

    I love group buys, if there's one on the go have to get in on the action like

    Don't worry about funding though mate, I'm good to my word.

    Unless this takes like 3 months then hell with that, well maybe even if it takes 3 months lol
    lmao al get you on the list

    i think its good timing as its at the end of the track session more or less so good for peoples winter projects
  16. #16
    good man.

    This payment direct to rally design aye?

    Also Luke, get into group buy man, you'll need some stopping power for your machine, may as well get it while it's cheap
  17. #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    good man.

    This payment direct to rally design aye?

    Also Luke, get into group buy man, you'll need some stopping power for your machine, may as well get it while it's cheap
    i am 99% sure the payment will go to them, and it would be easier that way

    Waiting for Scott to confirm it all at rally design.

    Soon as i hear from him al put all the confirmed details up
  18. #18
    also what caliper are they? as I know some wilwood ones don't have dust seals.

    Good group buy though, organised a few myself and it's a total hassle like!
  19. #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    also what caliper are they? as I know some wilwood ones don't have dust seals.

    Good group buy though, organised a few myself and it's a total hassle like!
    i mentioned that above mate waiting on scott confirming all that, i asked him every question under the sun tbh haha
  20. #20
    OK, well i am definately up for this (if payment wont be required before my pay day - 23rd October). However, I dont want to put my name down until i know a definate price.
  21. #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lcheater View Post
    OK, well i am definately up for this (if payment wont be required before my pay day - 23rd October). However, I dont want to put my name down until i know a definate price.
    as said the list is for interest so al stick it down

    i am going to try do it so we have a month to pay as i dont get paid roughly till the same as you
  22. #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    i mentioned that above mate waiting on scott confirming all that, i asked him every question under the sun tbh haha
    oops, group buy fever blinded me then, my appologises!
  23. #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    as said the list is for interest so al stick it down

    i am going to try do it so we have a month to pay as i dont get paid roughly till the same as you
    OK wicked mate. Cheers.

    I know its been mentioned 100 times or so already but, i would very much appreciate a detailed list of the spec of each item included in the kit as soon as you know, as it sounds like there are various different options available.

    Also, if it makes any difference, i would like the drilled / grooved discs to be added to my purchase.
  24. #24
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lcheater View Post
    OK wicked mate. Cheers.

    I know its been mentioned 100 times or so already but, i would very much appreciate a detailed list of the spec of each item included in the kit as soon as you know, as it sounds like there are various different options available.

    Also, if it makes any difference, i would like the drilled / grooved discs to be added to my purchase.
    no problem.

    Go above there is a picture of the caliper then the gold bit is the mounting bracket (carrier if you like).

    1. Caliper (midilite, the ones believed to have dust seals, dynalite are cheaper but dont have dust seals)
    2. Mounting Brakcet
    3. Pads
    4. Drilled and Grooved Discs / Solid if you want them to be cheaper

    Thats all you will need, but al be sticking braided hoses on as wel which i have.

    Al be happy with all that for £350 as its a bargain for a VERY good braking system.
  25. #25
    you say your selling s wheels cause you dont want to run spacers on track, so take it they dont fit direct under vts rims?

    whats price on just normal discs, no holes or grooves
  26. #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    you say your selling s wheels cause you dont want to run spacers on track, so take it they dont fit direct under vts rims?

    whats price on just normal discs, no holes or grooves
    i was going to get brembos which require sapcers as they are wider then the wilwoods

    normal discs are included in the price. Dont know the standard price of them sorry.
  27. #27
    just to qualify these should fit behind peugeot cyclone wheels aye?
  28. #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    just to qualify these should fit behind peugeot cyclone wheels aye?
    havnt got a clue tbh mate. if they are the same as VTS wheels then yes.
    everyone on ssc who has them with VTS wheels dont run spacers.
  29. #29
    you said they will be cheaper with solid discs, and not grooved/drilled option, how much cheaper? have you rang them yet?

    could be tempted like
  30. #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    you said they will be cheaper with solid discs, and not grooved/drilled option, how much cheaper? have you rang them yet?

    could be tempted like
    no you need to add money if want the drilled / grooved other wise price stays the same with solid discs.

    He e-mailed me yesterday and i e-mailed him back today, but probably wont get a response till monday now

    Yates you know it makes sense. Didnt get no brakefade with richies on the ring and we abused them tbh.
    Main reason i want them is to eliminate brake fade as my 266mm are fine to a point then just shite, so want decent brakes for next years circuit tours and ring trips

    Pads seem fairly cheap for the wilwoods too, alot cheaper then my 206gti ones.
    So in my eyes pay more now but save in the long run
  31. #31
    Teasing tbh

  32. #32
    can sell my gti 6 set up for bout 100 i think, offer to fit as well there, jobs a good un

    dont need hoses, duno if they were included in the price

    cant see pics at work like, do they look purple or more black? would have to have matching calipers lol
  33. #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    can sell my gti 6 set up for bout 100 i think, offer to fit as well there, jobs a good un

    dont need hoses, duno if they were included in the price

    cant see pics at work like, do they look purple or more black? would have to have matching calipers lol
    there more of a sexual purple lol not as in bright purple, actualy a nice colour imo al have to paint my rear calipers black i think.

    hoses are not included in the price.

    But there not expensive anyway.

    another good thing to add, your never really going to loose money on these, still today well used ones without discs / pads go for over £250 on eghey
  34. #34
    i have hoses in my garage, not putting my name down yet, but show me the price of them when you get them, let me know whose interested and paid up, personally think you should take non refundable deposits so people dont pull out saves time wasters, and if they do, we knock it off total price so we all get a bit more of a discount...
  35. #35
    I'll have a set depending on price.
  36. #36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    can sell my gti 6 set up for bout 100 i think, offer to fit as well there, jobs a good un dont need hoses, duno if they were included in the price cant see pics at work like, do they look purple or more black? would have to have matching calipers lol
    When you come to sell these, p.m me al have them off you
  37. #37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    i have hoses in my garage, not putting my name down yet, but show me the price of them when you get them, let me know whose interested and paid up, personally think you should take non refundable deposits so people dont pull out saves time wasters, and if they do, we knock it off total price so we all get a bit more of a discount...
    thats exactly what i was going to do
  38. #38
    Will be intrested when we get a final price and when i find out when il get my chuck of money, and how much i get as i want other things to lol

    Ill keep an eye on thsi thread or pm me with specific detaisl mate

    (would you want to fit them for me? LMAO)
  39. #39
    sticky'd steve, thought you doing a joint group buy with 106OC for a bigger discount?
  40. #40
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mark51 View Post
    sticky'd steve, thought you doing a joint group buy with 106OC for a bigger discount?
    Damn Good Idea
  41. #41
    Im interested, will update with a definate once i know prices etc.
  42. #42
    these are epic brakes
    had a set on my vts

    paid just over 500 for em so 350 is a steal if thats the price
  43. #43
    Really fucking stupid question, But Im after a set of 4 pots for the 182... would they chuck in a cheap appropriate application if I licked their bumholes?

    Before you say it... doesn't seem to be any similar buys on ClioSport
  44. #44
    Id be very interested in these if you can get them for £350
  45. #45
    So, the list so far is:

    The List
    1. Steve_VTS
    2. The_Notorious_C_A_T
    3. Lcheater *
    4. turbotom *
    5. Groomster-VTS *
    6. Saxo_89 *
    7. Dibz *
    8. CJonny *
    9. Cal * (Clio 182)
    10. Yates *

    Names marked with a * are subject to confirmation once prices have been agreed and published. I should think 10 sets or more should defo qualify for for a bigger discount surely? And if you link it to SSC and 106oc i think we could see near on 15!
  46. #46
    From last years info i got from scott at rally design

    needs at least 4 people

    end price will have 20% knocked off

    kit includes, discs, bolts, calipers, and carrier

    pads and lines are bought seperately, lines were about 30 quid last time, and the pads range from about 30 to 50 iirc

    only thing you will need to buy is 5.1 brake fluid to flush through, can be bought from rally design, i used 1 litre iirc, all depends on how you bleed them, i think i pumped the pedal 50 times on each nipple with the hose blocked off at one end and a slit in it to reduce the flow a bit more

    he did do another kit for another car so i think it would be cool cal

    great brakes for the price tbh, mine are fading like hell now though, its the wheel cleaner im using on them though, there an anodised surface, not to worry though ill get them powdercoated soon.
  47. #47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR View Post
    From last years info i got from scott at rally design

    needs at least 4 people

    end price will have 20% knocked off

    kit includes, discs, bolts, calipers, and carrier

    pads and lines are bought seperately, lines were about 30 quid last time, and the pads range from about 30 to 50 iirc

    only thing you will need to buy is 5.1 brake fluid to flush through, can be bought from rally design, i used 1 litre iirc, all depends on how you bleed them, i think i pumped the pedal 50 times on each nipple with the hose blocked off at one end and a slit in it to reduce the flow a bit more

    he did do another kit for another car so i think it would be cool cal

    great brakes for the price tbh, mine are fading like hell now though, its the wheel cleaner im using on them though, there an anodised surface, not to worry though ill get them powdercoated soon.
    Well i dont think 4 people is going to be a problem, but i wonder if the discount percentage will increase with the number of orders!?
  48. #48
    nope mate was just a fixed 20% as long as we got 4 people me, tbh its actually a lot, i got about 100 quid off my kit in the end, but its worth a try

    like steve said though yous have to be committed to buy when you put your name down or else these things wont work out
  49. #49
    Yeah totally agree.
  50. #50
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    Really fucking stupid question, But Im after a set of 4 pots for the 182... would they chuck in a cheap appropriate application if I licked their bumholes?

    Before you say it... doesn't seem to be any similar buys on ClioSport
    You do realise I want them for a Clio 182 dont you???

    Only you've put my name down already

    EDIT: just read Preds post - IAM A RETARD
  51. #51
    cal retard

    steve find out about ssc, rr and 106oc

    as said im interested, but want to see prices first
  52. #52
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cal View Post
    You do realise I want them for a Clio 182 dont you???

    Only you've put my name down already

    EDIT: just read Preds post - IAM A RETARD
    Yeah, i realise that, but from what Predator said, it doesnt make any difference what car you want them for, its the numbers that count.
  53. #53
    I have found braided hoses for sale on the 106oc forum.

    http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36200

    Prices are £22.50 for fronts only or £42.50 for a 4 line set. Havent looked elsewhere for hoses so not sure how the prices compare, but the thread is 14 pages long so far, so looking popular!

    Have just had a reply from the person who is selling these hoses and for the Wilwood calipers and standard rear discs, its £45 inc delivery, or if you only want the fronts to go with the Wilwoods, its £27.50 inc delivery. If anyone is interested in these, see the link above^^^ (the person selling them goes by the name of "swampy") I am just about to pay for a set.
  54. #54
    I baught a set of hoses from him on the 306gti forum and they are very good. Would the front hoses be different to the ones I currently have on for my gti-6 set up?
  55. #55
    i remember stevenet doing a group buy on the hoses, got them all four for 30 iirc, still got mine in the packet lol
  56. #56
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mark51 View Post
    sticky'd steve, thought you doing a joint group buy with 106OC for a bigger discount?
    cheers.

    Soon as i hear from scott about the discount and if we get more for more people i will stick it on the sites
  57. #57
    steve i can just whack a thread up on other sides just with a link to this...

    probs easier if they want them they can sign up
  58. #58
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mark51 View Post
    sticky'd steve, thought you doing a joint group buy with 106OC for a bigger discount?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    steve i can just whack a thread up on other sides just with a link to this...

    probs easier if they want them they can sign up
    yeah can do mate, i just wasnt going to do it till got prices confirmed.
    But suppose that dont really matter.
  59. #59
    Defo count me in.

    Dont come on here much, contact me on 106rallye RR or Spudley21@hotmail.com
  60. #60
    Ill defo have a set!!!
    STEVE_VTS pm me when payment is needed please
  61. #61
    The List
    1. Steve_VTS
    2. The_Notorious_C_A_T
    3. Lcheater *
    4. turbotom *
    5. Groomster-VTS *
    6. Saxo_89 *
    7. Dibz *
    8. CJonny *
    9. Cal * (Clio 182)
    10. Yates *
    11. Nick_106
  62. #62
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nick_106 View Post
    The List
    1. Steve_VTS
    2. The_Notorious_C_A_T
    3. Lcheater *
    4. turbotom *
    5. Groomster-VTS *
    6. Saxo_89 *
    7. Dibz *
    8. CJonny *
    9. Cal * (Clio 182)
    10. Yates *
    11. Nick_106
    cheers for updating the list.

    Just waiting on Scott obviously its a sunday. Didnt think we would get this many people, thought be around 4 of us, well thats what i told Scott.

    Soon as i hear from him i will update post 1

    Cheers
    Steve

    xxx
  63. #63
    Also I would pay extra for larger discs to suit 16" wheels as I'd imagine most here are running 15". Cheers
  64. #64
    The List
    1. Steve_VTS
    2. The_Notorious_C_A_T
    3. Lcheater *
    4. turbotom *
    5. Groomster-VTS *
    6. Saxo_89 *
    7. Dibz *
    8. CJonny *
    9. Cal * (Clio 182)
    10. Yates *
    11. Nick_106
    12.Spudley21*
  65. #65
    long list but lets see who still stays in once the payment comes in, it happened last time but like scott said on last group buy minimum of 4 needed, its been a good year and a half since the last one so im sure he will be ok with it
  66. #66
    Small update.

    I have had a response from scott but without a price.

    I said we want

    Calipers
    Carriers
    Standard Wilwood Pads
    Drilled / Grooved Discs

    So he is going to do us a price on that, i can ask for price on non drilled grooved discs if people want?

    Bare in mind it will be about £30 more or so with the drilled and grooved discs.

    Should have a price by the end of the day, he missed out answers to some of my questions so i have re asked them.
  67. #67
    The List
    1. Steve_VTS
    2. The_Notorious_C_A_T
    3. Lcheater *
    4. turbotom *
    5. Groomster-VTS *
    6. Saxo_89 *
    7. Dibz *
    8. CJonny *
    9. Cal * (Clio 182)
    10. Yates *
    11. Nick_106
    12.Spudley21*
    13. Berg *

    will need some when plans go ahead so ive put my name down price depending like the rest
  68. #68
    do we have at least 2 of us who are going threw regardless of price?
  69. #69
    Are the discs grilled and grooved? I only really want grooved tbh.
  70. #70
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dibz View Post
    Are the discs grilled and grooved? I only really want grooved tbh.
    yes they are DRILLED and grooved why do you only want grooved?

    Grooves mainly clean the pad and drilled helps ventelate.

    If your getting 4pots your more then likely going hardcore so will want them as cool as poss tbh.
  71. #71
    I'll be in as long as it's under £500 really mate.

    Any ideas when this will go ahead like, about month tops?
  72. #72
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    I'll be in as long as it's under £500 really mate.

    Any ideas when this will go ahead like, about month tops?
    be under £400.

    probs be open till the end of the month, so just after everyones pay days but should be available within a week or so
  73. #73
    right thats fine mate, as I was planning on spending like 600 on the bigbrake4u site so this is a bonus like.
  74. #74
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    right thats fine mate, as I was planning on spending like 600 on the bigbrake4u site so this is a bonus like.
    woooop

    i was going to get some second hand ones but for a few extra squid get some new ones
  75. #75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    do we have at least 2 of us who are going threw regardless of price?
    Price isnt a problem matey

    Would you know if the goodridge braided lines will fit the wilwoods or will i need these braided lines you can buy?
  76. #76
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nick_106 View Post
    Price isnt a problem matey

    Would you know if the goodridge braided lines will fit the wilwoods or will i need these braided lines you can buy?
    there different to standard ones, as the standards screw into the calipers, where as these they go over the thread like a nut rather then a bolt as standard.

    That make sense?

    i can ask for a price on hoses if people like?
  77. #77
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    there different to standard ones, as the standards screw into the calipers, where as these they go over the thread like a nut rather then a bolt as standard.

    That make sense?

    i can ask for a price on hoses if people like?
    Yep that makes complete sense thanks mate, if you dont mind getting a price for the lines that would be great cheers!
  78. #78
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nick_106 View Post
    Yep that makes complete sense thanks mate, if you dont mind getting a price for the lines that would be great cheers!
    no problem will do mate.
  79. #79
    so goodridge hoses wont fit?
  80. #80
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    so goodridge hoses wont fit?
    i would say no, richie has some un opened in his garage al have a look at them and update this.
  81. #81
    if they dont i cant be fucked buying more brake lines, more than happy with my gti6 just if these were a good price would be in, but not one for all these its this price, but you have to buy this and this with it which brings total price up again
  82. #82
    Just get a complete price for everything needed to do the conversion!
    Then we can have a definite price!
  83. #83
    Goodridge hoses will not fit onto the wilwoods, as they use a different type of connection. Can get adapters i believe though, which will allow them to fit.
  84. #84
    Does anyone know how much these weigh as it's probably the only reason im buying them over my 6 setup?
  85. #85
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CJonny View Post
    Does anyone know how much these weigh as it's probably the only reason im buying them over my 6 setup?
    They are lighter than gti-6's, but not sure by how much.
  86. #86
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CJonny View Post
    Does anyone know how much these weigh as it's probably the only reason im buying them over my 6 setup?
    not sure on exact weight, but weighed a hell of a lot less then richies 266mm brakes we removed when i fitted his.
  87. #87
    ive got a catalogue somewere on the weight of the brakes and dimensions etc, but steve you could get these from scott if you email him

    goodridge lines would probablies go on but you will need the correct fitting for it

    they did both kits last year, you can choose if you want solid or drilled and grooved discs, drilled/grooved cost about 40 quid extra iirc
  88. #88
    add my name to the list please

  89. #89
    I'l defo go ahead regardless of price. As long as you dont want payment until end of month.

    I'd be wanting the FULL kit so there is no messing around, so I'd want the braided lines too. IIRC on them fittings are american nuts? Dont quote me on that though.


    Btw - Ive had drilled disks before an they can crack under some real hard abuse, which is why most people go for grooved disks instead, an also then there is more surface area for pad to contact. Its swings an rounabouts
  90. #90
    Any news on the price yet? Looks like we are going to need a variation of prices as different people want different things! Would be good to have a price for the basic kit (calipers and solid discs) and then prices you need to add on top for things like upgrading to drilled and grooved and also if you want hoses.

    Me personally, i will am after a price for just the brakes with Drilled and Grooved discs (i.e no hoses).
  91. #91
    as above i heard from him yesterday but hes very busy so i expect a reply this morning.

    Going to ask him for prices on everything as people want too much variation, and there probably people who wont even buy anything lol
  92. #92
    Price Update post 1#
  93. #93
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    Price

    BK38A = Brake Kit with 285mm plain discs and no pads £319.20 plus vat
    (375.06 inc vat)

    150-8946K = Wilwood fast road Smart Pads £22.30 set plus vat (£26.20 set inc
    vat)

    XDG = Extra charge for Drilled / Grooved Discs £26.00 pair plus vat (£30.55
    pair inc vat)

    S1 = Front braided hoses to suit above £16.50 each hose plus vat (£19.39
    each inc vat)

    Carriage £9.50 plus vat (£11.16 inc vat) This is UK mainland only.
    Scotlands highlands and islands are not included and Northern Ireland and
    Eire are not included. Carriage to any place other than UK mainland to be
    quoted at time of ordering.

    These are prices including the discount, thought it would have been cheaper then that tbh.

    If people on the list can pm me what they are after (but try not to spam me with questions) then i can forward these onto scott.

    The List
    1. Steve_VTS
    2. The_Notorious_C_A_T
    3. Lcheater *
    4. turbotom *
    5. Groomster-VTS *
    6. Saxo_89 *
    7. Dibz *
    8. CJonny *
    9. Cal * (Clio 182)
    10. Yates *
    11. Nick_106
    12.Spudley21*
    I think I will declare ‘im out’. Wasn’t expecting it to total £430 ish for a set (with drilled and grooved discs). Unless someone can convince me by telling me how much this setup would be to buy off the shelf normally?
  94. #94
    the calipers and solid discs are £399 excl vat without the discount.

    we are getting 20% discount.

    total price is more then what i was expecting tbh

    the VAT's the killer.
  95. #95
    Sorry guys im out. Still think its a good price but more than i can afford tbh when ive already got the GTi 180 setup.
  96. #96
    Steve_VTS PM'd
  97. #97
    Still in I suppose as it's still cheaper than big brakes 4 u like
  98. #98
    still cheaper but more then what i was expecting tbh
  99. #99
    V.Interested can you pm a total inc.vat & delivery for the lot.
  100. #100
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTSTomE View Post
    V.Interested can you pm a total inc.vat & delivery for the lot.
    see post 1
  101. #101
    thats a shit price really, after talk of 350, any other places that you can contact?
  102. #102
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Richie2104VTR View Post
    Goodridge hoses will not fit onto the wilwoods, as they use a different type of connection. Can get adapters i believe though, which will allow them to fit.
    i had goodrich on mine

    went straigh in

    got a pic somewere that kinda shows it

    EDIT: found pic see the logo on the line
  103. #103
    goodbrdige saxo hoses wont fit, they have a different connections on them, will have to get the goodbridge hoses with the correct fittings.
  104. #104
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    thats a shit price really, after talk of 350, any other places that you can contact?
    might try wilwood direct, i was expecting more money off as his site prices are cheaper then last year, might go direct to wilwood.
  105. #105
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    goodbrdige saxo hoses wont fit, they have a different connections on them, will have to get the goodbridge hoses with the correct fittings.
    well i just ordered saxo hoses
    and the came from a different supplier than the brakes so its not like rally design new they were going on there
  106. #106
    richies are different, as standard screw into the caliper where as the wilwoods you screw over them.
  107. #107
    mine screwed in???

    might be different as i know the do differnt models of caliper but mine use a standard style line that screws into the back of th caliper
  108. #108
    kam not sell any? what bout bigbrakes4u?
  109. #109
    am in

    let me know on payment details please
  110. #110
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yates View Post
    kam not sell any? what bout bigbrakes4u?
    al see what kam can sort pm him now.

    I am honestly gutted at the price rally design is
  111. #111
    i tried bigbrake4u but they are closed for a bit for training or something, not sure if that applies to the site though as I phoned
  112. #112
    bigbrakes4u did have a group buy in there section, they needed 1people iirc still ould of only got them for about 600 quid

    i think rally design has took the vat off there site thats why it looks so cheap tbh, still great brakes for 400 quid imo, not much difference from the hispecs
  113. #113
    the kamster has been pm'd
  114. #114
    I'll look into this... Will have to be a little patient as we don't currently deal with wilwood so I've got find the right contact / get prices / work out margins etc.

    kam is on the case!

    update.. found contact details.. left message
  115. #115
    Lets hope you can do us a good deal Kam
  116. #116
    here's hoping folks!
  117. #117
    Maybe if Wilwood cant do us a decent price we could try and get a price for Hi-Spec?
  118. #118
    I am watching this thread for any updates because i am still interested, but i have sort of come round to the prices on page 1 after my initial shock! However, it seems there maybe room for improvement in the prices, so i will keep an eye out on this but i spose i am happy to pay the prices listed in the first post - if i have to lol
  119. #119
    al admit am not happy with the price, but people are forgetting what the original price actually is, saving 20% is a lot.

    you get what you pay for.......

    Rally designs price may look expensive but it is actually cheap tbh.

    Even second hand the wilwoods go for over £300 with all the gear to get you up and running.


    Have you gone direct to wilwood Kam? as thats what i was going to do today.
  120. #120
    Well I will be in whatever like, would just prefer a bitty cheaper of course!
  121. #121
    A Big Reply From Scott Which Should Clear Some Things Up

    Hi Steve

    I have taken a look down the thread at saxperience and I hope the following
    will answer some of those questions:-

    Our website prices do not include vat, they never have.
    The prices that I have given are the best possible discount I can offer so
    Im sorry that no extra discount will be available for more purchases.

    Not all items are discounted and some are by different amounts depending on
    the cost of the part involved.

    The Wilwood Midilite calipers do have dust seals fitted. They are the only
    Wilwood caliper to have external dust seals.

    Your standard or Goodridge hoses will not fit directly into the Wilwood
    calipers, they have a 1/8 NPT tapered thread in them. We supply a male/male
    adaptor with a male M10x1 thread with all kits unless they have our hoses.
    If you have our hoses these male/male adaptors are not required in the kits.
    But please note that you will need a female swivel fitting to connect yours
    to these, so most people get our hoses unless they can make their own.

    The calipers are supplied with a black finish, this can start to turn a dark
    purple after time, use and heat wear and tear.

    You can get other pads from major names like EBC/Mintex/Ferodo etc..

    The basic kit price retail is £399.00 plus vat and thats the same as it was
    in 2007. The extras like pads may have changed slightly.

    I will hold the prices open on this as I did before. I understand that some
    people just cant magic up hundreds of pounds overnight. So we held it open
    for something like six weeks before.

    Other kits are available if you ask to speak to me and quote the Saxperience
    forum I will offer you all 20% from the retail kt prices. I will look at
    them all as part of the same group buy.
    ^^^^ i have asked what kits these are


    Wilwood do not sell these kits, they just supply us the calipers and we have
    the brackets and the discs machined locally. But of course you must try
    them and I understand fully. I am always on the lookout for better prices
    as Im into my bikes and do much the same on other forums.

    Please find below some information on various packages:-

    Saxo kits:-

    Option A - full kit with all the options added.
    Midilite calipers
    discs 285mm X-Drilled & Grooved
    all mounting brackets
    fast road pads
    braided front hoses
    uk mainland delivery
    Total price delivered including vat £481.75
    Normal retail price would be £580.80


    Option B - full kit with all options except XDG on the discs.
    Midilite calipers
    plain discs 285mm (not XDG)
    all mounting brackets
    fast road pads
    braided front hoses
    uk mainland delivery
    Total price delivered including vat £451.20
    Normal retail price would be £550.25


    Option C - full kit without braided hoses. This was by far the most popular
    option on the last group buy, I guess they all had their own hoses to fit.
    Midilite calipers
    plain discs 285mm (not XDG)
    all mounting brackets
    fast road pads
    uk mainland delivery
    Total price delivered including vat £412.43 < bargain tbh
    Normal retail price would be £511.48


    I trust this helps all thye thread questions Steve.

    Regards
    Scott
  122. #122
    the other kits are other car applications.
    Meaning you will get 20% on the pug dynalite kit.
    You dont get dust seals on the dynalite kit, dont know what implications that has tbh, asked scott to clear it up but its a fair bit cheaper.
  123. #123
    sorted what am getting, am going for the dynalite calipers - the same but without dust seals just means you will have to clean them now and then which i dont care about.
  124. #124
    option a, the full fat package for me mate
  125. #125
    You want grooved discs - drilled is for looks, grooved for deglazing the pads. All proper race cars have grooves and not holes!! As said, holes are a weakness in the disc as well!
  126. #126
    i want the holes to keep the weight down as much as possible, as i know 285 disks will be heavy.
  127. #127
    would anyone know if these fit behind VTS wheels without spacers????
  128. #128
    i think you may need spacers mate im not sure now, check the last group buy by me as someone did have them behind vts rims
  129. #129
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by frankie View Post
    would anyone know if these fit behind VTS wheels without spacers????
    Go to first page and look lol
  130. #130
    if we know what we want can we order directly ourselves?
  131. #131
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    if we know what we want can we order directly ourselves?
    pm'd you the details now
  132. #132
    top stuff mate, just hate all this waiting and messing about like.
  133. #133
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    top stuff mate, just hate all this waiting and messing about like.
    you ordered yours this morning?

    Just waiting back about the cheaper calipers then al pay for mine.
  134. #134
    i tried phoning a few times but got no answer so assumed they weren't open Saturdays as I had a look on their site and saw no opening times lol

    Will order Monday now.
  135. #135
    what price is the dynalite kit with grooved discs but no hoses?
  136. #136
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fairmorn308 View Post
    what price is the dynalite kit with grooved discs but no hoses?
    will be tomorrow when i find out mate, will post it up asap
  137. #137
    cheers mate

    I will deffo take a set just need to know prices and who i make payment to.
  138. #138
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fairmorn308 View Post
    cheers mate

    I will deffo take a set just need to know prices and who i make payment to.
    add me to msn if you have it mate

    my addy is in my profile.

    Will update the thread anyway as soon as i hear from scott
  139. #139
    Ordered jsut now guys.

    Sorted
  140. #140
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    Ordered jsut now guys.

    Sorted
    which ones did ya order? did you order direct with rally design?
  141. #141
    full works option a.

    Straight from rally design themselves
  142. #142
    not heard back from scott yet

    how much was yours in the end mr cat?
  143. #143
    481 roughly give or take a few pence like.

    "should" arrive today although I do live in hill billy land in the sticks like
  144. #144
    will drop him another e-mail today for the dynalites.
  145. #145
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    481 roughly give or take a few pence like.

    "should" arrive today although I do live in hill billy land in the sticks like
    You sure like?
  146. #146
    yes

    And as expected they never arrived today.
  147. #147
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    yes

    And as expected they never arrived today.
    When they do arrive, could you be so kind as to take some pics of all the bits and bobs prior to fitting them?

    Cheers.
  148. #148
    i still not heard from him
  149. #149
    spoke to Scott aday, apparently the courier can't find my setup!

    Scott has shipped a second set to me so hopefully should get them tomorrow they say.
  150. #150
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    spoke to Scott aday, apparently the courier can't find my setup!

    Scott has shipped a second set to me so hopefully should get them tomorrow they say.
    What brakes do you have atm? Could you weight up ur current 1's and the wilwoods so we can see the difference in weight please

    Finch
  151. #151
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo View Post
    What brakes do you have atm? Could you weight up ur current 1's and the wilwoods so we can see the difference in weight please

    Finch
    standard with drilled and grooved disks with red dot pads so would imagine a little lighter than standard items.

    I will try to take pics and weight them but I am lazy!

    Any other requests?
  152. #152
    pose naked with them.
  153. #153
    Will do!
  154. #154
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    When they do arrive, could you be so kind as to take some pics of all the bits and bobs prior to fitting them?

    Cheers.
    Scott e-mailed me this morning and is going to send me pictures to upload for you.
    He read your post

    the cut off date for the group buy is 28/11 so everyones pay day.
  155. #155
    did you find out a price for the dyna kit steve?
  156. #156
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fairmorn308 View Post
    did you find out a price for the dyna kit steve?
    not yet the guy who makes the brackets isnt back till monday so he said i will know by then.

    Sorry forgot to post that up.
  157. #157
    no worries
  158. #158
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    Scott e-mailed me this morning and is going to send me pictures to upload for you.
    He read your post

    the cut off date for the group buy is 28/11 so everyones pay day.
    I didn't think there was a group buy?
  159. #159
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    I didn't think there was a group buy?
    yeah, only getting discount because of members buying
  160. #160
    great news, 4 pots arrived today along with some other stuff I ordered! Woop
  161. #161
    pictures for you bitches!




  162. #162
    Thanks Bitch!
  163. #163
    you fitted and tried vts wheels?

    everywhere i read say they fit straight over, but richie tried his today and didnt (they were not from the group buy though)
  164. #164
    not tried yet, and don't have vts wheels either.

    Reason for not fitting is waiting for my suspension to arrive so I only need to do it once, ordered the suspension like the 1st as well an! Fuck sake!
  165. #165
    shit, need to double confirm they fit, was going to buy mine on monday aswel.
  166. #166
    I managed to get hold of some of these off ebay for a bargain and hey arrived today!! Got half way through fitting them and ran out of daylight!! Does any one no the best way to bleed them? A little info would be great lol
  167. #167
    I want the midlite option A...who do I send payment??
  168. #168
    i bought this setup last time there was a group buy and they fit behind the vts wheels on a mk2, they are excellent and i highly recommend them, i wasn't overly impressed with i think i got the mintex moonlight pads tho (new design at the time) as the initial bite wasnt too good they need a tiny bit of warming first and when u all get them fitted don't get disappointed they dont tip ya car over nearly cuz they take a while to bed in properly i found.
  169. #169
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spudley21 View Post
    I want the midlite option A...who do I send payment??
    Phone up rally design and ask for Scott, tell him you're from Sax-p group buy then do the deal.
  170. #170
    any ideas on bleeding them chaps? out of top nipples, bottom nipples??
  171. #171
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spudley21 View Post
    I want the midlite option A...who do I send payment??
    ring scott tomorrow mate, you got the number?



    So they deffo fit behind VTS wheels? as thats the only reason i wanted them.
  172. #172
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    So they deffo fit behind VTS wheels? as thats the only reason i wanted them.
    This any help mate?
  173. #173
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LeeumH View Post
    sort of but already seen it and used that photo.

    Its purely cos richies dont fit

    Al speak to Scotty boy tomorrow see what the deal is.
  174. #174
    they definately fit behind vts alloys, ya need to bleed from bottom nipples and if ur getting braided hoses you need to make sure u get the right adapters as i had to. they are like an elbow shape on my setup.
  175. #175
    how come it says bleed screw must be facing up on the label that came with them?
  176. #176
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    how come it says bleed screw must be facing up on the label that came with them?
    implying you only need to bleed them from the top?
    Am going to order mine this week. Going to speak to scott make sure design hasnt changed from last year for fitment etc.
  177. #177
    I spoke to Scott by email and he stated that you should bleed them from the top nipple, best to start on the inside then outside.
  178. #178
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    I spoke to Scott by email and he stated that you should bleed them from the top nipple, best to start on the inside then outside.
    coolio.
  179. #179
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo View Post
    What brakes do you have atm? Could you weight up ur current 1's and the wilwoods so we can see the difference in weight please

    Finch
    Just weighed the wilwoods. On my very scientific bathroom scales, they come it at 8kg, for caliper, disk and pads for one side.
  180. #180
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    Just weighed the wilwoods. On my very scientific bathroom scales, they come it at 8kg, for caliper, disk and pads for one side.
    how much is that less then standard?
  181. #181
    no idea but I can't imagine it being less than standard tbh

    If I get them fitted tomorrow I will weigh the standard items
  182. #182
    try get a loan of some S rims to test haha

    They better fit as i just picked up a mint set tonight for track rimage!
  183. #183
    one of my mates has vts rims on her saxo, if she's kicking about and I can be arsed I'll ask her like
  184. #184
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    one of my mates has vts rims on her saxo, if she's kicking about and I can be arsed I'll ask her like
    good man

    cheers
  185. #185
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    Just weighed the wilwoods. On my very scientific bathroom scales, they come it at 8kg, for caliper, disk and pads for one side.
    Just weighted the standard items, which consisted of disk, caliper,carrier, pads and brake hose( bit rusty to bother taking off haha)

    And the result you've all been waiting for . . . . . . . .. . . . .

    8kg as well! Again this was done with my massively accurate and scientific bathroom scales.

    Tbh I expected the standard items to come out lighter than the 4 pot setup
  186. #186
    You will need new hoses with these
    the thread is incorrect on the standerd ones

    i can supply them in stainless steel braided with zinc plated mild steel ends
    £27.50 a pair
    £47.50 full car set
  187. #187
    Since swampy has brought this up, had a look at my braided lines that have came with the calipers.

    They do technically fit, but there is nothing to secure the flexi/braided hose against bracket thats attached to the car.
  188. #188
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    Just weighted the standard items, which consisted of disk, caliper,carrier, pads and brake hose( bit rusty to bother taking off haha)

    And the result you've all been waiting for . . . . . . . .. . . . .

    8kg as well! Again this was done with my massively accurate and scientific bathroom scales.

    Tbh I expected the standard items to come out lighter than the 4 pot setup
    Interesting. Is your *standard* a completely standard set up, not a bigger 266mm for example. I've got GTI6 calipers / discs etc, and they weigh LOADS.
  189. #189
    standard, although red dot pads and drilled and grooved 247 disks
  190. #190






    As you can see, the braided line isn't going to be held by anything, unlike the standard one, where there is a lip on it! No idea how to work round this in a short amount of time like!
  191. #191
    I cant view the pics on my phone but

    the lines i supply fit through the bracket the standerd ones fit through with the splines
    mine are slightly different and fit there with a thread and nut
    attachment

    if u need hoses in a hurry i can have a set with you by the middle of week.
  192. #192
    Might be mate, although I'll speak to rally design first as this should fit safely from the box if you know what I mean mate.

    Will give you a shout on Monday but they should send out hoses that are securable, not like these.
  193. #193
    am ordering mine on my lunch today.
    Wooooop!
  194. #194
    I'm just talking to Scott right now regarding different hoses, so hopefully progress on that front!
  195. #195
    Just off the phone with Scott, he's probably getting sick of me by now!

    But he's sending out a set of braided lines and adapters so hopefully everything will be good when they arrive. Although going offshore tomorrow so winna have it back together soon by the looks of it, gutted.

    But on a positive note great customer service from Scott and rally design though.
  196. #196
    Yeah scotts spot on

    He e-mailed me when he read the thread about your other brake lines, thinking he had sent something wrong lol.

    But then said knowing you, you would call lol
  197. #197
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS View Post
    Yeah scotts spot on

    He e-mailed me when he read the thread about your other brake lines, thinking he had sent something wrong lol.

    But then said knowing you, you would call lol
    Customer is always right
  198. #198
    Just ordered mine.
  199. #199
    ill try and get a pic of the way my mines are mate, but i dont think mine are being held in by anything either, they have been fine so far
  200. #200
    If the brake lines arnt secured correctly then theyWILL be an mot failure!
  201. #201
    i have conections scott

    i cant remember if i used the bracket thing on the old lines now or not tbh
  202. #202
    Fucking hell that was fast delivery, mine got to my work before i did lmao
  203. #203
    they fit behind VTS wheels with no spacers. Straight on
  204. #204
    thought they would of steve
  205. #205
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR View Post
    thought they would of steve
    richie didnt look happy as the wilwoods he has, VTS wheels dont fit over haha just rubbed it in lol

    But think he has different offset discs.

    But hes got the same ones as me to fit now.
  206. #206
    Steve i have your lines here!
    If i catch the post office today ill post them!

    if i dont the mother in law will do them tomorrow!
  207. #207
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by swampy View Post
    Steve i have your lines here!
    If i catch the post office today ill post them!

    if i dont the mother in law will do them tomorrow!
    ah cheers mate, didnt see this posted in the other thread!
  208. #208
    Now ended thanks to the few people for taking part
  209. #209
    eg me and you? lol
  210. #210
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T View Post
    eg me and you? lol
    and aly51 last minute today think there was 1 other member tooo haa
    still got 20% off though
  211. #211
    with rally design is it a case of phoning them up an asking about group buys, no email address.
    just i fancy a kent cam group buy lol
  212. #212
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by craigy_87 View Post
    with rally design is it a case of phoning them up an asking about group buys, no email address.
    just i fancy a kent cam group buy lol
    yeah, i e-mailed them fao of scott and he sorted it all.

    But why a kent group buy? already a newmans going on and they will be cheaper.
  213. #213
    its for the 6, kent cams are the most common cam for them, more info on them on the 306 forum. was gonna ask if ya could mix which cams were bought
  214. #214
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by craigy_87 View Post
    its for the 6, kent cams are the most common cam for them, more info on them on the 306 forum. was gonna ask if ya could mix which cams were bought
    ah sorry dude didnt sus, just give scott an e-mail the sales e-mail is on there website. he's a great guy and helpfull so see what he can sort
  215. #215
    THIS IS STILL OPEN

    Scott e-mailed to say he will leave it open, but not forever so please give him a call.


    Craigy_87 they cant do a discount on Kent Kams.
  216. #216
    little update from me!




    Disks are rusty as I put them on the car while I couldn't work on it and the weather aint been good here!

    Also the missing 4 pots arrived at my house today, so now have 2 sets lol
  217. #217
    bastard

    how much were the new brake lines mate?

    I think i need some, mine seem rusted on. Was goign to blow torch them but isnt there a rubber seal inside?
  218. #218
    Brake lines were a tenner and the unions a couple of pence.

    Also no seals in that particular area so blow torch away!

    This is really for anyone elses info regarding the brakes as they will check this thread and not see my progress thread probably
  219. #219
    going to have another go, if not my mate said he will make me some brake lines up
  220. #220
    damn didnt see your post till now, guess i'll have to pay full whack when i get them then lol