newbie help with turbo conversion?

1. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #1 6th October 2008, 21:23

   im new to the forum and the saxo scene, recently bought a 2000 vtr and im looking to put in a turbo conversion, struggling to find out were to get a spacer plate, ive been told using 2 gaskets achieves the same thing but would like some input? pros nd cons and does it work? id rather have 1 made or buy 1 if any1 can shed light on where and costs? however my friend works in an engineering company and was toying with the idea of getting him to copy a gasket but dnt know the depth the spacer needs to be or what metal he should use, can any 1 help, cheers andy
2. mattchewone Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 West Sussex Posts: 5769 Passat Oil Burner

   #2 6th October 2008, 21:25

   Hi, welcome to the forum.
   
   Just thought i'd say you may get a better responce in the engines/performance section mate.
   
   All the best though, look forward to seeing a progress thread!
3. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #3 6th October 2008, 21:28

   moved thread for you, read the rules before posting, the text talk is unbearable on forums
4. luthor1 Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1802

   #4 6th October 2008, 21:33

   use low compression pistons and a steel headgasket mate
   
   Andy
5. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #5 6th October 2008, 21:41

   thanks for that, u can still run the kit with standard pistons tho yeah?
6. SunderZ Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Guiseley, Leeds Posts: 1064 Vts turbo, 1.1 dsire, Pug 207.

   #6 6th October 2008, 21:51

   companies to look at:
   
   DP engineering
   carworx
   cittuning
   
   i would recomend doing alot of reasearch into changeing the compretion ratio what bhp your final figure as to what the engine internals can take and if forged pistons will be needed as you wont need to get a decompretion plate with forgies and they will change the compretion ratio
   
   regards
   chris
7. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

   #7 7th October 2008, 01:26

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 thanks for that, u can still run the kit with standard pistons tho yeah?

   It depends what you want from your car mate, if you want a bit of fun and dont mind a few engine rebuilds and some hassle then you can run boost on standard internals as proved by several members, obviously using mf2, fifth injector or some modified engine management system.
   
   However, if your looking to spend a bit more money (which if your serious about running boost you'll end up spending in the long run anyway) then forged low compression pistons and a multi layered steel head gasket, and standalone engine management is the way to go, this way you can safely and more reliably run higher boost for longer periods of time without the risk of something melting!!
   
   All depends what power you want to achieve, then whether you want it reliably and safely, its only a matter of time before standard internals will fail, however some boosted saxo's have lasted quite some time!!
   
   I'd recomend thinking about what you want before you start the build and then doing LOTS of research on that particular method!!
8. djrem Saxperience Addict Joined: Feb 2007 Ramsden Bellhouse (Billericay) Posts: 12826 Various.

   #8 7th October 2008, 06:35

   recommened talking to this bloke called Simo.
   
   If you have £3000 to £5000 to blow then by all means start the turbo route.
9. lcheater Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2005 Southampton United Kingdom (England) Posts: 811 1999 Saxo VTS 2008 Vectra 2.8 V6 Turbo 1987 Rang

   #9 8th October 2008, 10:47

   I wouldn’t recommend using a decompression plate, that’s considered the cheap option in the world of turbo conversions, same with the 5th injector technique as mentioned above. In my opinion - spend more initially = save more long term. This is probably why you are struggling to find a decompression plate, as I wouldn’t imagine they are very popular!
   
   However, I completely agree with SunderZ and WIDE-VTR-TURBO – it all depends what you are looking to achieve.
10. saxmad88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 middlesex Posts: 229 106 gti

    #10 8th October 2008, 12:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lcheater I wouldn’t recommend using a decompression plate, that’s considered the cheap option in the world of turbo conversions, same with the 5th injector technique as mentioned above. In my opinion - spend more initially = save more long term. This is probably why you are struggling to find a decompression plate, as I wouldn’t imagine they are very popular! However, I completely agree with SunderZ and WIDE-VTR-TURBO – it all depends what you are looking to achieve.

    
    Agreed with this!
    
    Places to go for turbo conversions in my eyes would be tweeqd automotive, or gmc (they will persuade you to go supercharged though )
    
    Farriday engineering can make a decompression plate i think there around £80.
    
    Personally i would only run up to 10 psi on standard pistons and secomp plate or double head gasket method.