lowering the torsion bar

1. wigansaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 wigan Posts: 3787 citroen saxo 1.1 forte(sold) sierra sapphire 1.8 v

   #1 24th October 2008, 14:07

   i was wanting to give it a go later but ive seen two diffrent guides and there both diffrene, one uses dummu dampers are these needed? i want to lower it by 40 mm but how do you adjust the hight? get someone to hold it at the requied hight? or by turnins the torsion bar? can anyone give me a guide for 40 mm plz? and how many turns dose it need for 40 mm?
   thanx
2. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

   #2 24th October 2008, 14:34

   Right, the dummy shock isnt needed and is only a tool to make it abit easier!
   
   What i did was bash the bars out of the arm while there is a jack jus touching the bottom of the drum or disc, then measure the distance from arch to middle of the drum then say its 400mm u then take 40mm off so when the arm has been raised towards the arch the measurement should be 360mm to lower it 40mm! then put the bars back in, u may need to jiggle the arm abit to get the bars to go in both sides!
   
   The suzuki tuning guide is better tbh!
3. wigansaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 wigan Posts: 3787 citroen saxo 1.1 forte(sold) sierra sapphire 1.8 v

   #3 24th October 2008, 15:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Nick_106 Right, the dummy shock isnt needed and is only a tool to make it abit easier! What i did was bash the bars out of the arm while there is a jack jus touching the bottom of the drum or disc, then measure the distance from arch to middle of the drum then say its 400mm u then take 40mm off so when the arm has been raised towards the arch the measurement should be 360mm to lower it 40mm! then put the bars back in, u may need to jiggle the arm abit to get the bars to go in both sides! The suzuki tuning guide is better tbh!

   
   i thought it wasnt needed
   mine has rear drums so so i just measure from the edge of the arch to the middle of the drum yea?
   and whats all this ive heard about turning the bar so many clicks/teeth before putting it back in?
   i looked at the suzuki guide uickly but gonna look propa later
   
   if anyone hase any pics that they took when doing it that would be great. or anymora guides with links
   thanx
4. wigansaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 wigan Posts: 3787 citroen saxo 1.1 forte(sold) sierra sapphire 1.8 v

   #4 24th October 2008, 17:25

   just to let you kno ive got the car jacked up atm and the bottom bolt for the dampers is removed so now iv gotta uno the torx, so any advice from that point on would really help,
   thanx
5. operation-saxo L-plater Joined: Oct 2007 Derbyshire Posts: 54 bmw X5 (daily) impreza powered 106 (project)

   #5 24th October 2008, 19:01

   www.badgermotorsport.co.uk click on technical got a very helpful guid with pics
6. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

   #6 24th October 2008, 19:32

   take the torx bolts out, take the fiddly little washer out of where the bolt jus came out then try and pull the bar out, either by using the bolt and washers method or strap the beam so the arms dont move and use a slide hammer!
7. wigansaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 wigan Posts: 3787 citroen saxo 1.1 forte(sold) sierra sapphire 1.8 v

   #7 24th October 2008, 19:42

   the washer behined the torx wouldnt come out on the left hand side i didnt even ter the right, the washer looked like it had droped down into the housing its in, i took sum pics but i dont kno what they will be like as it was dark, ill get them up in the next 20 mins, aanyone else had this problem?
8. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

   #8 24th October 2008, 19:53

   there offset washers, there meant to be in the groove to stop the bars moving! What i do is get a phillips screwdriver and put it in threaded part of the bar and try and drag the washer out of the groove and then flick them out, you think its difficult taking them out, wait til u try putting them back in lol if there stuck jus give them a tap with a hammer coz the bar might be putting pressure on the washer!
9. wigansaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 wigan Posts: 3787 citroen saxo 1.1 forte(sold) sierra sapphire 1.8 v

   #9 24th October 2008, 21:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Nick_106 there offset washers, there meant to be in the groove to stop the bars moving! What i do is get a phillips screwdriver and put it in threaded part of the bar and try and drag the washer out of the groove and then flick them out, you think its difficult taking them out, wait til u try putting them back in lol if there stuck jus give them a tap with a hammer coz the bar might be putting pressure on the washer!

   
   ahh right ill av another go tomoz cos i lost light today, can you explain to me about what to do with the antirole bar? like turning it, dose it meed turning? if so how many turns for 40 mm? or dose it need just tacking out and putting back in?
   o n thanx for ya help btw
10. wigansaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 wigan Posts: 3787 citroen saxo 1.1 forte(sold) sierra sapphire 1.8 v

    #10 24th October 2008, 21:13

    also dost the anti role bar have to come out before the torsion bar? or dose the anti role bar come out when the torsion bar comes out?
    thanx
11. ChrisT Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Pontefract Posts: 243 saxo vtr 106 gti

    #11 24th October 2008, 23:20

    Mate just take it to a shop