Fao Alexr and other suspension nerds: standard Saxo spring rates?

1. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #1 30th October 2008, 14:07

   sup gang. Just wondering if anyone knew the standard spring rates for the Saxo range including athe equivalent spring rate for the torsion bar too?
   
   Also the weight distribution (f/r%) of a Saxo?
   
   Thanks
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2. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #2 30th October 2008, 14:35

   i also want to know spring rates of koni, what spring rates the shocks would handle.
   And also what torsion bar size would match
   
   
3. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #3 30th October 2008, 15:29

   From what i remeber from working on a saxo team it was 125lb for springs and citroen quoted 62% wieght on the front end for a full interiored vtr!
4. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

   #4 31st October 2008, 00:54

   125lb sounds high for standard springs, more like 100lb!
5. user_14329 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 169 Track Thing

   #5 3rd November 2008, 18:54

   120 i thought.....
6. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #6 3rd November 2008, 19:17

   120lb what?
   
   lb/inch?
7. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

   #7 3rd November 2008, 19:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by adsayer 120lb what? lb/inch?

   knowing the french it will be per three fifty fifths of a yard & have a torx bolt on the end
8. user_14329 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 169 Track Thing

   #8 3rd November 2008, 20:42

   lbf/in
9. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #9 3rd November 2008, 20:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mystic knowing the french it will be per three fifty fifths of a yard & have a torx bolt on the end

   hahaha quality
10. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #10 3rd November 2008, 21:25

    same as eibach? 100?
11. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #11 3rd November 2008, 22:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mystic knowing the french it will be per three fifty fifths of a yard & have a torx bolt on the end

    legend x
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danvtr17 lbf/in

    cheers man... lb/in.
12. AlexR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2004 Kunt & Sorrey Posts: 5763 Rep mobiles & Joes ma

    #12 3rd November 2008, 22:55

    106 GTi ones tested at 120lb/in apparently.
    Eibach pros tested at 115lb/in linear.
    
    From measuring there were a few different springs used on saxos, it appears it correlates with 15" wheels on vts. Somewhere in the region of 110-130lb/in. I have some if you wanna test one
    
    Wheel rate of that would be around 90-100lb/in iirc.
    
    Wheel rate of 19mm torsion bars, according to sandy is 110lb/inch.
    
    I haven't looked into any of my graphs and calculations etc for this as i'm on a temp pc, so it's all from memory, so may be incorrect.
    
    Weight dist is about 65/35 standard.

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13. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #13 3rd November 2008, 22:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexR 106 GTi ones tested at 120lb/in apparently. Eibach pros tested at 115lb/in linear. From measuring there were a few different springs used on saxos, it appears it correlates with 15" wheels on vts. Somewhere in the region of 110-130lb/in. I have some if you wanna test one Wheel rate of that would be around 90-100lb/in iirc. Wheel rate of 19mm torsion bars, according to sandy is 110lb/inch. I haven't looked into any of my graphs and calculations etc for this as i'm on a temp pc, so it's all from memory, so may be incorrect. Weight dist is about 65/35 standard.

    take your fooookin time with the reply. cheers man
    
    Yep I have a machine I can test it on for true ratings which I'd gladly take you up on the offer
    thanks for the infoooo
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14. AlexR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2004 Kunt & Sorrey Posts: 5763 Rep mobiles & Joes ma

    #14 3rd November 2008, 23:04

    Well i have 1999 mk2 vts springs in my shed, get ryanal to pass them on, collect them or whatever you wanna do They do feel better than eibachs so i'd be suprised if they were softer than 120lb.
    
    Don't really come on here much, only noticed the thread as it was showing on the main forum page with my name in the title lol
15. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #15 3rd November 2008, 23:09

    shame...
    
    nice one man
16. Mysticp Scotland Joined: Jul 2005 Edinburgh Posts: 9556 Saxo 1.6i 16v VTS, 2 Classic Minis

    #16 4th November 2008, 08:13

    I wish the manufacturers would put this kinda info up with the springs & shocks tbh. Would take the guess work out of trying to match adjustable shocks to springs n stuff