tyre streeettching

1. euro-vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 bournemouth Posts: 126 saxo vt- and r6

   #1 3rd November 2008, 13:43

   i have a set of dished 15" wheels but want to do somthing special with the tyres has anyone put 14" tyres on would it work or whats the best opion also whats the diffrents in handling and speed rating going to be
2. Peejous Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 11423

   #2 3rd November 2008, 13:46

   Tyre stretching is about the width of the tyre not the radius iirc.
3. ally-vts Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Republic Of Linwood.. Posts: 855 green phase 1 vts

   #3 3rd November 2008, 13:56

   a 14'' tyre will not fit on a 15'' rim. depending how wide the wheels are depends on the size tyre used i.e 15x8 you could use a 195/40 for a subtle stretch.. or a 165/55 for a mental stretch

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4. euro-vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 bournemouth Posts: 126 saxo vt- and r6

   #4 3rd November 2008, 14:00

   thats sounds good 165/55 im going evan more euro/track than the last 2 saxo so want to look good what will the wear on the tyre be like and anything to watch out for
5. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #5 3rd November 2008, 14:05

   euro track??
   
   well stretch and hard cornering are a bad combination tbh
   im planning on running a 195/40/15 (maybe a 45 profile) on some 15x8j rims
   that will be pretty ample stretch but i wouldnt wanna corner to hard on them at all
   
   imo wear on stretch is the same as a normal tyre but there is more stress on the side wall so they may weaken faster than normal
6. euro-vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 bournemouth Posts: 126 saxo vt- and r6

   #6 3rd November 2008, 14:16

   thats somthing i was also considering as its only a 195 on there at the moment on a 165 or somthing its not gona have a wide surface to road when stretched which will hamper the performance, can you get a 40 profile on a 195 15 tyre if so who does one
7. euro-vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 bournemouth Posts: 126 saxo vt- and r6

   #7 3rd November 2008, 14:25

   somthing suttle what about a 185/45/15 would that work?
8. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #8 3rd November 2008, 14:30

   well im still looking into it all atm im not 100% sure what sizes ect but im assuming 195/40s are available
   
   tbh it depends how wide the wheels are that will determine what width tyre you want
9. euro-vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 bournemouth Posts: 126 saxo vt- and r6

   #9 3rd November 2008, 14:40

   there 7 inch lenso rs5 got plans for a nice paint job on them i didnt think 195 40 were avaible but if not that wud be a good opion
10. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #10 3rd November 2008, 14:42

    well a 195 on a 7 wont really stretch tbh
    
    id say a 185 would give a fair stretch
    seen a 165 55 on a 6 inch rim and it had a fair bit of stretch so on a 7 it would be mental
11. euro-vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 bournemouth Posts: 126 saxo vt- and r6

    #11 3rd November 2008, 16:16

    yeah i think il speak to a clued up tyre garage and go for the 185, cheers for your advice
12. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #12 3rd November 2008, 18:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS well a 195 on a 7 wont really stretch tbh id say a 185 would give a fair stretch seen a 165 55 on a 6 inch rim and it had a fair bit of stretch so on a 7 it would be mental

    a 195/45/15 has no stretch at all on a 7j wheel
    
    a 185 has a very small stretch on 7j wheels
    
    a 165/55/15 has a good stretch on a 7j
    
    i had 165/55/15's on my ronal turbo's (7j). there are some pics in my saxo thread if you want to have a look.
13. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #13 3rd November 2008, 18:47

    for the 7 I'd have though a 165 would be fairly mad
    I stand corrected though as I know curran knows his shit
14. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #14 3rd November 2008, 18:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS I stand corrected though as I know curran knows his shit

    haha
    
    thanks
    
    i'll fish out a picture for you
15. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #15 3rd November 2008, 18:53

    
    
    
    
    165/55/15's on 7j wheel
16. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #16 3rd November 2008, 19:54

    see id count that as quite hectic stretch
17. jamie_w Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 crook, co durham Posts: 651 LHD Black S2 Rallye

    #17 3rd November 2008, 20:23

    165/50 or 165/55 ftw! only tyre that looks good on a 7j
18. ChrisT Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Pontefract Posts: 243 saxo vtr 106 gti

    #18 3rd November 2008, 22:08

    Gotta be 165 on 7j wheels. It all depends on what tyre ya get aswell. All tyres give a different stretch even if there the same size. Nankangs are one of the best for stretch
    
    This is a 165 on a 8j wheel!! Pretty crazy
    
    
    
    And these are a set of my old wheels. 13x8 with 175 dunlop SP2000
    
    
19. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #19 3rd November 2008, 23:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChrisT

    mk1?
    
    more pics needed
20. grant_evans Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 863

    #20 4th November 2008, 00:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS well im still looking into it all atm im not 100% sure what sizes ect but im assuming 195/40s are available you want

    pretty sure they dont exist
    
    to fing out about stretch i would go on a vw forum, will be loads of info on there, just dont tell em you own a saxo, haters tbh
21. euro-vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 bournemouth Posts: 126 saxo vt- and r6

    #21 4th November 2008, 08:55

    thats the sort of stretch i was looking for what tyres are you running on the ronals i cant decide between 165 or 185 want somthing inbetween
22. euro-vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 bournemouth Posts: 126 saxo vt- and r6

    #22 4th November 2008, 08:58

    after lookin throw all the treads im gona go for some 165/50 , il post some pics in tommorow wen its done
23. Bondie Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Bristol Posts: 3200 Slammed Corsa SXI

    #23 4th November 2008, 09:35

    IMO im doing the whole euro theme but i would not ever have stretched tyres after seeing my mate golf fly off the road because of cornering hard on them it made me think twice as i love to corner hard!!!
24. euro-vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 bournemouth Posts: 126 saxo vt- and r6

    #24 4th November 2008, 10:06

    oh that brings me 2 another problem then as i corner hard and after spending 600 quid on coilovers i dont want to lose my handling though tyres i dont expect it to handle quite aswell
    
    what about a 185 on a 7 inch wheel
25. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #25 4th November 2008, 11:17

    you cant drive a car hard on stretched tyres. its dangerous.
    
    if you like the country lanes dont get stretched tyres.
26. ChrisT Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Pontefract Posts: 243 saxo vtr 106 gti

    #26 4th November 2008, 12:46

    Depends how much stretch you have
27. ChrisT Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Pontefract Posts: 243 saxo vtr 106 gti

    #27 4th November 2008, 12:47

    For pics of mk1 go to http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v623/ChrisThomas/
28. euro-vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 bournemouth Posts: 126 saxo vt- and r6

    #28 4th November 2008, 15:16

    il go for a small strech 185 on 7 inch think it will still handle fine
29. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #29 4th November 2008, 15:31

    hence my confusion on the euro track comment
    ive not seen a stretched tyre let go but they do a lot earlier than a normal tyre under hard use
    
    even minimal stretch is bad
    if you even think of driving hard i personally wouldnt stretch
    only time stretch an go fast is in a straight line
30. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #30 4th November 2008, 18:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChrisT Depends how much stretch you have

    he said he wanted stretch like my ronal turbo's. that amount of stretch is dangerous for hard cornering
    
    
    thats a nice mk1 you got there. would love one myself some day
31. Curran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 5387

    #31 4th November 2008, 18:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by euro-vtr il go for a small strech 185 on 7 inch think it will still handle fine

    185 what?
    
    i dont know of any 185 tyres available that will give a stretch on a 15 inch wheel
    
    as far as i know you cant get 185/45 or 185/40 which is what you would want for some stretch
32. blackvtrt Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Newcastle/ Billingham Posts: 1873 02 Gold Cleaned OEM+ VTR

    #32 4th November 2008, 19:30

    think if you go on eu mania or one of the vdub forums cant remeber of the top of my head but at the top of the forum they have a sticky thread, with a link to a website that show all dif size & width wheels with all diff tyres and manufactures, help give you an idea what looks good etc, should prob come up in a search engine or sumthin
33. dannyboy2005 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0

    #33 4th November 2008, 20:41

    Why don't you just get low profile tyres.
34. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #34 4th November 2008, 20:42

    stretch allows you to run a wider rim without the tyre tread protruding from the arc (its illegal for the tread to be exposed) so people stretch there tyres to get the rims poking out the side of the car