Citroen AX GTi Gearbox

  1. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #1
    Just a quick few questions. Possibly purchasing one of these soon, rebuilt and
    stuff. But where do they stand against the 106 S2 GTi box/S1 XSi box/S1 Rallye
    box, final drive wise?

    Ive heard they are very similar to an S1 XSi box but would rather be sure before
    buying. Thank in advance. Mr Rush.
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #2
    think they are the same as a 1.4xsi box mate.

    Will go check ssc for you.

    I know they are fairly short.
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  3. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #3
    Im not a member of SSC but would be great if you could find out mate!
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #4
    AX GT 1360 20CA28

    Think CA28 is the code you need 99.9% sure

    http://www.saxosportsclub.com/Forums...t=gearbox.html
    ^ one for sale with LSD £700

    Also says its basically the same as a s1 rallye box doesnt say if shorter or longer.
  5. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #5
    Ah the ultimate find in my IE favourites.

    Here you go dude this should clear it up

    Click Me For MA Gearbox Ratios
    ^ not a full list of gearbox's mind, but had a fair few

    GT Box 2CA28 Final - 16 65 4,06250

    1.4 Xsi Box 2CB15 Final - 14 60 4,28571

    Just need the code from a S1 Rallye box to compare

    I can find the final drive for it.
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #6
    Excellent mate! Thanks a bunch!!

    £700 aye, I have a feeling that one has been snapped up already...
  7. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Excellent mate! Thanks a bunch!!

    £700 aye, I have a feeling that one has been snapped up already...
    Only thing with an ax gt box is its getting old now. So more then likely need a full rebuild.
    Also not sure on the speedo if its electronic or cable? was reading something on it when searching for the ratios. I had an ax box not sure what one think was a 1.1 and it had an electronic speedo (i didnt fit it mind got sent it by mistake off the pikeys)
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #8
    The one Im looking at was rebuilt 2000miles ago. My Pug tuners Des are going to check the
    box over before fitting so tis cool.

    I will find out about the electronic speedo thing. Dude cant thank you enough!
  9. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    The one Im looking at was rebuilt 2000miles ago. My Pug tuners Des are going to check the
    box over before fitting so tis cool.

    I will find out about the electronic speedo thing. Dude cant thank you enough!
    no problem, its better then doing proper work which i am meant to be doing





    hope they dont read this.
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #10
    http://www.saxosportsclub.com/Forums...box+codes.html

    Alexr's Gearbox code thread is always useful, shame that site i linked above doesnt have a full list


    Note that suzukitraining website has a few guides for torsion bar and changing 5th gear and someother stuff.
  11. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Sheffield Posts: 233 Posi Blue VTR 2000 reg.
    #11
    im runnin ax Gt box, its a treat, just need a quickshift for it! Any good ones?
  12. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1
    #12
    Done a fair bit of reseach and found on a website that the final drive of the AX GTI box
    isnt that much different from the GTi box! Rush is very upset!

    I also found out that the GT and GTi box are the same!
  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2008 ..... Posts: 5231 ..............
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Done a fair bit of reseach and found on a website that the final drive of the AX GTI box
    isnt that much different from the GTi box! Rush is very upset!

    I also found out that the GT and GTi box are the same!

    yes they are the same

    gearbox itself is speedo cable
    but can buy a speedo sensor(which is a dodgy white & in all saxos/106 gearboxs around the back of the gearbox i think) just fit that and wire in to use electric drive
  14. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2007 plymouth Posts: 365 saxo vts metro gti rover 414
    #14
    some ax boxes dont fit newer ma engines, they had a diffrent starter motor set up.
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rushy_23 View Post
    Done a fair bit of reseach and found on a website that the final drive of the AX GTI box
    isnt that much different from the GTi box! Rush is very upset!

    I also found out that the GT and GTi box are the same!
    What about the gear ratios though Rushy? The FD figure on its own is irrelevant without them. It may well perform similar to the S1...
  16. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 Cumbria Posts: 526 2000 VTS
    #16
    When my AX GTi box packed up I fittted a VTS box, didn't notice any difference TBH.

    Think the final drive was suppose to be slighty, slighty different...
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2004 Kunt & Sorrey Posts: 5763 Rep mobiles & Joes ma
    #17
    AX GTi box is same as 106 xsi.

    AX GTs came with a few different boxes, some same as vts/gti, some shorter some longer. Older GT boxes won't fit as the bellhousing is different, and they have much smaller bearings, and are generally shit.