Is it me or are the standard break's really.......

1. Mattt-VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2008 Warwick Posts: 2981 Vee-Tee-aar Mk 2

   #1 7th November 2008, 20:46

   ......not that good! I can see why people upgrade the breaks, i remember on my dads focus zetec the breaks were pretty immense, and compared to driving the saxo, it feels as if the breaks aren't very good at high-speeds.
   
   What do other people think of this?
2. andyjos91 Established Member Joined: Jan 2007 bethesda Posts: 1024 106 quiksilver

   #2 7th November 2008, 20:55

   I have to agree they are not the best thats why i changed my front brakes for something better
3. Mattt-VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2008 Warwick Posts: 2981 Vee-Tee-aar Mk 2

   #3 7th November 2008, 21:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by andyjos91 I have to agree they are not the best thats why i changed my front brakes for something better

   Why did you change them to mate?
4. Peasnall Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2006 Lincoln Posts: 908 Wicked Red VTS

   #4 7th November 2008, 21:13

   dont rate the std vts ones atall
5. AdamWhyp Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Llanelli Posts: 1800 Saxo project S1400!!!

   #5 7th November 2008, 21:14

   306 GTi6 brakes work i belive... or 406....
6. NukkinPhutz L-plater Joined: Nov 2008 South Wales Posts: 88 Posi Blue VTR 03

   #6 7th November 2008, 22:42

   mine are wank lol, i want the gti-6 brakes, they fit straight on? ill get em when i need new pads next.
7. Ben Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost

   #7 7th November 2008, 22:44

   I'd like VTS front setup on my westy, what would i need?
8. samco77on Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Portsmouth Posts: 265 2002 106 GTi

   #8 7th November 2008, 22:46

   yeh im looking at getting some 306 gti6 brakes too, need new wheels to fit them under first. lol
9. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #9 7th November 2008, 22:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bensambrook I'd like VTS front setup on my westy, what would i need?

   you already have it mate

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10. Ben Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost

    #10 7th November 2008, 22:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo you already have it mate

    So the VTS standard brakes are no better than mine?
11. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #11 7th November 2008, 22:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bensambrook So the VTS standard brakes are no better than mine?

    sort of, as they have ABS and rear disks do make a small but noticable difference. But front brake wise, theyre identical just you dont have ABS.
12. Ben Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost

    #12 7th November 2008, 22:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo sort of, as they have ABS and rear disks do make a small but noticable difference. But front brake wise, theyre identical just you dont have ABS.

    Ahh right! So i'm best off lookin at whats been said above then. To get rear disks i'd need the whole axel? I'm such a nooob.
13. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #13 8th November 2008, 00:34

    yes the are thats why i got me some wilwoods
14. user_12874 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 London, England Posts: 734 Saxo VTS, Audi A6 Avant Quattro.

    #14 8th November 2008, 01:21

    I quickly got some GTi-6 brakes, soon after i got the vts, my foot was on the floor with the brake more than the throttle.
    
    bensambrook your better of getting a 266mm setup for the front, and leaving the rear as is. That will make more of an improvement.
15. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #15 8th November 2008, 02:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR yes the are thats why i got me some wilwoods

    bit overkill on a non track saxo imo mate, but cool at the same time
16. DazzaVTS Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire Posts: 189 Toyota Starlet SR, Toyota MR2, Saxo VTS

    #16 8th November 2008, 06:13

    how much you looking at too upgrade the breaks on a vts then?
17. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #17 8th November 2008, 08:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR yes the are thats why i got me some wilwoods

    Same here
18. andyjos91 Established Member Joined: Jan 2007 bethesda Posts: 1024 106 quiksilver

    #18 8th November 2008, 11:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mattt-VTR Why did you change them to mate?

    Someone near me had a zx estate that was going to the scrap so i took the brakes off that as it had vented discs and were bigger and better than what I had and they fitted straight on I aslo changed the discs and pads or better ones
19. Sheepy106 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 133

    #19 8th November 2008, 11:35

    They are pretty wank aren't they.
    
    Just bought myself some 306 GTi ones. Mucho better.....i hope
20. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #20 8th November 2008, 11:40

    my vtr ones arent bad, they do ther job, just dnt really have anything to compare them with? how much will gti6 front setup cost?
21. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #21 8th November 2008, 12:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Predator_VTR yes the are thats why i got me some wilwoods

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T Same here

    mine are on, not bled them properly so there not too good haha
22. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #22 8th November 2008, 12:14

    I was wondering if you had em on yet! Good to hear though mate.
    
    Theres a cunt load of pedal travel with mine like, deffo bled right, think it's due to me undoing the brake bar when I thought I had to take off the servo to reach the abs servo thing. eeep
23. Shellz Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Chesterfield Posts: 3832 206 Quicksilver

    #23 8th November 2008, 12:16

    I'm still learning. And i couldn't believe the difference between my breaks and my instructors. In his 207!
    
    And my Breaks are new, lol!
24. user_26907 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Tha Durrty Saaf Posts: 2095 BMX

    #24 8th November 2008, 13:20

    my brakes are proper sponge!
    
    dunno why this is, but when your doing more than 30 they dont seem to dont much unless you slam your foot on the floor.
    
    im too lazy to get it sorted tho as they do stop you eventually
25. Lewball98 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Scarborough Posts: 130 1.0i Saxo Open Scandal!

    #25 8th November 2008, 13:28

    yea i noticed that they are absolutely pants! i think the first non-cosmetic mod im gonna do its either brakes or add a speedo!
26. Mr_suv Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 blandiago Posts: 4483 Hondaaaa

    #26 9th November 2008, 12:20

    i got some gti-6 front brakes with drilled and grooved discs they are lush! got them for a steal too
27. pjsaunders06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Portsmouth Posts: 2882 54 Audi A4 Estate 1.9TDi

    #27 9th November 2008, 12:23

    i lol'd @ my s brakes went a brought some gti-6's never fitted them then sold the car lol
28. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

    #28 9th November 2008, 12:37

    I also run a 266mm setup.
    
    Can't fault it and i got them at a bargain of £80 delivered with new disks and pads!
29. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #29 9th November 2008, 16:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T I was wondering if you had em on yet! Good to hear though mate. Theres a cunt load of pedal travel with mine like, deffo bled right, think it's due to me undoing the brake bar when I thought I had to take off the servo to reach the abs servo thing. eeep

    mine are gradually bedding in, nearly went through the window on the motorway earlier.
30. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #30 9th November 2008, 18:30

    there pants tbh
    get some of these!!!
    
    
    
    on a seriose note
    eithe 206 gti 266mm conversion
    or the 283s on a gti6/berlingo van do the job
    
    both of the above need a small part griniding off
    but other than that they drop straight on
31. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #31 9th November 2008, 18:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS mine are gradually bedding in, nearly went through the window on the motorway earlier.

    whats your pedal travel like?
32. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #32 9th November 2008, 18:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T whats your pedal travel like?

    fine tbh, there is some but used to it off my 266mm but i need to properly bleed them yet, just need to get my rear wheels off.
    Fit some new discs to the rear, and also braided lines.
    
    Then fully bleed the system properly.
33. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #33 9th November 2008, 19:01

    maybe I just never bled em properly lol
    
    Will give em another go on the weekend like
34. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #34 9th November 2008, 19:21

    least your part of the 4pot crew
35. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #35 9th November 2008, 19:30

    just a little trick i found to improve pedal feel guys
    
    in the bay on the firewall is the bit were the servo rod connects to you can adjust
    i pulled mine up a little to effectively lift the pedal (but it doesnt come higher up like)
36. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #36 9th November 2008, 20:15

    thats what I was planning on doing this weekend but couldn't be arsed lol
37. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #37 9th November 2008, 21:09

    will give it a try, cant find the cable for my camera, mine are fecking tight to the wheel like lol
    
    4pots yar!
    
    
38. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #38 9th November 2008, 21:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS will give it a try, cant find the cable for my camera, mine are fecking tight to the wheel like lol 4pots yar!

    haha they were when i put 15s on
    got 16s there
    
    heres 1 with my origonal track rims lol
    
    
    
    hijack ftw
39. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #39 9th November 2008, 22:55

    car doesnt have to have to go on track to have better brakes tbh, even people who do get them purely for track only go on 5 times a year on average
    
    i purely got them to make me feel more safe, saved my bacon a few times, ie today, paddy
    
    that and what im planning on doing will be needing them, watch the progress thread
40. Mattt-VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2008 Warwick Posts: 2981 Vee-Tee-aar Mk 2

    #40 9th November 2008, 23:45

    I agree, it is for my safety, i don't trust my breaks for shit!