vts engine conversion

1. GazWestcoast Newbie Joined: Dec 2007 Gloucester Posts: 13 westcoast saxo

   #1 8th November 2008, 18:36

   alright people.
   currently have a west coast 1400.
   thinking about dropping the vts lump in it as ive grown fond of the car but wamt more power.
   im a tech by trade n im just wondering if anyone has done it how much of a job it was in relation to it fitting straight in and did you have to reposition any engine mountains etc
   
   was probs thinking of getting a vts for a couple of hundred quid and then taking the rear axle from it aswell for the rear disc conversion.
   
   please let me know.
   gaz
2. gdwelsh Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Skelton - Saltburn Posts: 826 306 GTi-6 / Saxo VTS

   #2 8th November 2008, 18:46

   fairly straight forward I can only imagine, it was easy enough on my old 1.4 xsi, we only needed to modify the existing mount for the timing belt case to fit correctly.
   
   Since yours is a saxo you may only need to change one mount and not grind it.
   
   Someone with lots more help should be along soon
   
   Good Luck
3. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

   #3 8th November 2008, 18:48

   search button will give you all the answers you need.
   
   this will help as well http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84099
   
   if you need a axle im selling a mint one.
4. Mr_suv Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 blandiago Posts: 4483 Hondaaaa

   #4 8th November 2008, 18:53

   its easy check out my progress thread that goes through the whole think just make sure the ecu is unlocked from the vts and if your using a gti loom its better to get a vts loom as you will be there for days chopping a gti loom
5. fastsaxo7 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 rotherham Posts: 440 saxo 1.4

   #5 26th January 2009, 18:10

   hi all will most off the westcoast plugs plug straight into a vts lump are is it easier to change the loom?
6. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #6 26th January 2009, 19:08

   You'll need:
   
   16v engine
   vts loom
   vts drivers side driveshaft
   vts radiator hoses
   vts unlocked ecu
   vts manifold
   vts throttle cable
   
   pretty much it
7. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

   #7 26th January 2009, 19:16

   dose a weatcost have a fuel return?
   
   cos i thought thay dint have one.
8. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #8 26th January 2009, 19:27

   Fuel return not strictly needed but its advisable and your right the VTS is the only model with one. Also VTS rad is needed or itll run like shyittt
9. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #9 26th January 2009, 19:29

   Will run fine on a westcoast radiator - maybe a tad hot, but I wouldn't call it a must.
   
   The only difference is that if you kept your westcoast radiator for the short term, then would need to keep your existing bottom radiator hose.
   
   I would definately fit a fuel return hose - only take 3/4hours to plumb one in by yourself.
10. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #10 26th January 2009, 19:47

    What does that entail mate? Gonna be doing it myself in the summer, is it just a small hose from the fuel rail you have to lead back to the tank? Or does it run back into the feed hose?
11. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #11 26th January 2009, 19:58

    it runs back from the engine bay to the fuel tank - and runs next to the original line that's there.
    
    You'll have to do a bit of plumbing at the tank end, but if you do it methodically you'll be fine.
    
    The westcoast has the FPR at the tank end, so need to remove it/change over a few hoses. Just talk it through as you look at it, fuel come out of here . . . . . come back from the engine etc. . . .
12. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #12 26th January 2009, 20:02

    Ah right fair play. Did you just use plastic hosing or uprate it to braided?
13. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #13 26th January 2009, 20:59

    I bought a full fuel line set from ebay.
    
    It was advetised as a fuel tank and all the fuel hpsing - won it for £20, and just said I wanted the lines, so cheaper postage.
14. pete0527 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Edinburgh Posts: 320 Saxo VTS mk2 track car

    #14 27th January 2009, 10:59

    Its not a hard conversion to do ready, helpful if you know your wiring and have access to autodata for diagrams etc. Full return line in my eyes is a must, good news is alot of the lower spec 106s came with them so they arent hard to get.
    One thing i will add and its a must is uprate the brakes! That way you can fully play with the new power.
15. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #15 27th January 2009, 18:34

    iirc westcoast brakes are the same as vts/vtr brakes, so should be fine. Can always go for a 266mm conversion on the front.
    
    If you get the wiring from the same year car - then there is no wiring needed - plug and play.
16. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #16 27th January 2009, 18:56

    you'll need top engine mount, or you'll have to grind your current 1.