vtr throttle bodies (need quick response)

1. phillyc Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 torquay (devon) Posts: 269 saxo 02 vtr straight through exhaust

   #1 10th November 2008, 10:17

   are these throttle bodies for a mk1 or mk2 as the inlet spacings are different.
   also how do you modify the throttle cable to fit.
2. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #2 10th November 2008, 10:54

   looks to be for the later vtr engine
3. syvtr Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 Kirkby-in-ashfield, notts Posts: 660 subaru impreza terzo

   #3 10th November 2008, 14:34

   Off subject wasnt these on ebay as i wanted to know if they would on fitted mine but was sold next day..
4. Rob-C Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Maidstone Posts: 1223 Citroen Saxo VTR MK2

   #4 10th November 2008, 14:43

   been looking at throttle bodies for my vtr, been told it would make turn a 98bhp vtr into 128bhp is that correct?? 30bhp seems a bit over the top imo?
5. user_7096 Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Market Bosworth Posts: 2482 106 XSi 1360cc

   #5 10th November 2008, 18:34

   to answer your question....
   you will want to get a throttle cable from a bike off ebay.... i recommend the universal one as is onger than most so you can trim it to size
   
   also those bodies are for a silver top VTR and to get to 130bhp you would need to cam it aswell!!!
   silvertop inlets are wank so you would gain a fair bit from them but personally i would fit a newman 280 or piper 285 cam to utilise the most you can from the bodies
   
   as for stand alone choices..... with these i woud choose omex as KMS has shoddy wideband llambda and omex can be mapped just from the TPS (throttle positioning sensor). tbh though whereever you get it mapped i would go for what ever they reccommmend as they wil be used to the specific system diagnostics of the ECU they tell you
6. phillyc Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 torquay (devon) Posts: 269 saxo 02 vtr straight through exhaust

   #6 10th November 2008, 18:37

   think it would be around 130 bhp maybe abit more if done correctly with manifold, decat, cams, throttle bodies and remap.
   yeah there back on ebay now.
   its the throttle cable that I need to know how to do before I bid. anyone help
7. phillyc Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 torquay (devon) Posts: 269 saxo 02 vtr straight through exhaust

   #7 10th November 2008, 18:42

   sorry dint see the post from piggy 123 so asked same question again lol, thanks for the help every1
8. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

   #8 10th November 2008, 18:51

   i don't see standalone as an exclusive cost to throttle bodies tbh as you need that no matter what kind of tuning you do.
   
   Just a point to raise like!
9. phillyc Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 torquay (devon) Posts: 269 saxo 02 vtr straight through exhaust

   #9 10th November 2008, 18:59

   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=180305435253
   
   this is the one on ebay and it says it has a chip with it (hopefully not some resistor chip from ebay), sent him a message asking but no reply yet
   
   please dont bid as think im gonna lol
10. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #10 10th November 2008, 19:17

    that looks like an eprom chip if thats what they're called like.
11. user_7096 Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Market Bosworth Posts: 2482 106 XSi 1360cc

    #11 10th November 2008, 19:47

    very true but going standalone for bodies is a must where as if camming is the end of your game then i think the OE ECU is suffice
12. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

    #12 10th November 2008, 19:50

    Looks like he bought them ten days ago and either couldn't fit them or changed his mind
    
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=330282486080
13. phillyc Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 torquay (devon) Posts: 269 saxo 02 vtr straight through exhaust

    #13 10th November 2008, 22:12

    one last question, when fitted with cams and remapped correctly would the emmissions be ok for mot coz would be a right pain changing them and decat for mot.
14. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #14 10th November 2008, 22:39

    I like how the picture that has been used is from a guy I know from around here and is a 1.6 not 1.4 as he stated and a different set completely.
15. phillyc Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 torquay (devon) Posts: 269 saxo 02 vtr straight through exhaust

    #15 11th November 2008, 10:33

    what you mean from a guy you know, you sure he isnt selling them cause there on ebay.
    anyone know if they affect the emissions
16. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #16 11th November 2008, 10:41

    as in the picture of the blue car with the throttle bodies isn't anything to do with that auction or item. It's just a random picture of a car with throttle bodies.
    
    And emissions, as in if you just put on the tb's would that effect emissions are you asking?
17. phillyc Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 torquay (devon) Posts: 269 saxo 02 vtr straight through exhaust

    #17 11th November 2008, 10:47

    well my engine will have, piper 280 cams, piper 4-1 manifold, mk1 cat under car for mot, them throttle bodies and a remap.
18. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #18 11th November 2008, 10:48

    with the cat on the car it should be fine as long as the mapping is good.
19. Dasher_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Swanley,Kent Posts: 866 saxo vtr

    #19 11th November 2008, 10:53

    how much would these cost to get mapped, also would it be cheaper if i've already had it mapped for cams?
20. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #20 11th November 2008, 11:07

    no idea, if it's standard ecu, would bank on £500 or more.
    
    BUt from a financial point of view I would do all mapping at once, to keep costs down as much as possible. Although since yours is mk2 vtr not sure if they can even remap standard ecu. Never looked into remaping standard ecu, ever.
    
    Althoguh mapping standalone is easier, but still good £500 plus like. Have a look at datashifts standalone they aint got one for a vtr but I'm sure one will be in the pipeline, good value in my opinion.
21. Dasher_VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2007 Swanley,Kent Posts: 866 saxo vtr

    #21 11th November 2008, 11:12

    well i've already had it the standard remapped once for my cams, but them bodies looked quite cheap.
    
    i wouldn't do it again unless it was gonna up the bhp to at least 140bhp.
    
    running 122bhp atm.
22. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #22 11th November 2008, 11:18

    sorry mis read the question there, I wouldn't imagine that it would be cheaper but unsure of the remaping standard ecu process.
    
    Also if you think you're going to get 18 more horses from bodies you'll be very dissappointed. Bodies are about mid range rather than peak power, think thats a good general way to put it.
23. phillyc Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 torquay (devon) Posts: 269 saxo 02 vtr straight through exhaust

    #23 11th November 2008, 11:33

    I know they dont add loads of bhp and if I cant find anywhere to remap oe ecu ill get standalone, really need to know if it will pass mot with bodies on.
24. phillyc Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 torquay (devon) Posts: 269 saxo 02 vtr straight through exhaust

    #24 11th November 2008, 11:48

    sorry missed a previous post its already been answered, thanks