Is a Raceland really worth the effort?

1. chriswoodward Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Surrey Posts: 1326 05 Mini Cooper S

   #1 24th November 2008, 20:25

   Before some of you go 'its been covered before' shut up and listen lol
   
   im considering a raceland induction kit but after using the search button endlessly all i have come across is that they can be awkward to fit and lets face it the build quality isnt great, so are they really worth the money when compared to such rivals as:
   
   K&N Gen II
   BMC Enclosed
   Pipercross Viper
   
   what do you think?
2. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

   #2 24th November 2008, 20:27

   been covered before
   
   hassle- buy a raceland. or similar buy a green. gen 2, viper are not worth it. bmc would be fine
3. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #3 24th November 2008, 20:33

   cheap kit good bang for £££
   
   i wouldnt ever use a viper imo.
4. chriswoodward Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Surrey Posts: 1326 05 Mini Cooper S

   #4 24th November 2008, 20:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bullit been covered before hassle- buy a raceland. or similar buy a green. gen 2, viper are not worth it. bmc would be fine

   yes but why? this is what i mean you halfwit, why would you not buy a viper or gen 2 what is so much better about a bmc? popular opinion or is there actually a reason?
5. chriswoodward Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Surrey Posts: 1326 05 Mini Cooper S

   #5 24th November 2008, 20:35

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ryan cheap kit good bang for £££ i wouldnt ever use a viper imo.

   why wouldn't you use a viper? im good with cars and used to be a mechanic but all these kits are very similar so what are the pro's and cons of the individual kits?
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 24th November 2008, 20:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by chriswoodward why wouldn't you use a viper? im good with cars and used to be a mechanic but all these kits are very similar so what are the pro's and cons of the individual kits?

   viper has alot of metal in the design of the seat for the filter, which isnt exactly good for heatsoak.
7. chriswoodward Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Surrey Posts: 1326 05 Mini Cooper S

   #7 24th November 2008, 20:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ryan viper has alot of metal in the design of the seat for the filter, which isnt exactly good for heatsoak.

   very good point
   
   hmmm i want something a bit different are there any others anyone can recommend that is not a bmc or raceland/simota
8. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #8 24th November 2008, 20:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by chriswoodward very good point hmmm i want something a bit different are there any others anyone can recommend that is not a bmc or raceland/simota

   procomp- now streamline, about £300 though + iirc.
   
   I used to have one on my vtr, but imo for the money a green enclosed is perfectly suitable. just fit them with foam to the slam pannels and cable ties, or with a flexi hose like the 16v airbox has as standard so theres room for engine rocking.
9. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #9 24th November 2008, 21:01

   I cant remember the name of it, its like IGM RAM AIR or something, but its a fully carbon fibre enclosed kit for saxos, carbon from where it attaches to the TB all the way to a scoop at the slam. Looks very different to the raceland/green scoops too. But its like 300 quid

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10. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #10 24th November 2008, 21:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo I cant remember the name of it, its like IGM RAM AIR or something, but its a fully carbon fibre enclosed kit for saxos, carbon from where it attaches to the TB all the way to a scoop at the slam. Looks very different to the raceland/green scoops too. But its like 300 quid

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11. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #11 24th November 2008, 21:04

    Thats the one. Looked at it before, but it looks so well built it wouldnt look right in the engine bay of a saxo lol
12. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #12 24th November 2008, 21:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo Thats the one. Looked at it before, but it looks so well built it wouldnt look right in the engine bay of a saxo lol

    would look fine.
    
    an example of what an old procomp looked like etc..
    
    
    with that and my BTB it sounded fucking evil....
    
    not as evil as bodies mind but rocked
13. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #13 24th November 2008, 21:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chriswoodward why wouldn't you use a viper? im good with cars and used to be a mechanic but all these kits are very similar so what are the pro's and cons of the individual kits?

    if you had half a brain youd realise a induction kit does fuck all anyway. just stick a panel filter in. save your money you spanner
14. chriswoodward Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Surrey Posts: 1326 05 Mini Cooper S

    #14 25th November 2008, 12:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bullit if you had half a brain youd realise a induction kit does fuck all anyway. just stick a panel filter in. save your money you spanner

    to be honest mate im going to bodie it anyway i was just putting an iduction kit in untill i can afford to bodie and cam it at the same time because i only have the money for one at the moment
15. DawsonWicked Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Doncaster Posts: 1348 VW Golf GT TDI

    #15 25th November 2008, 12:26

    yes a raceland is worth the effort, they are for sale brand new on here for £41 and tbf you will not get better for the price, i fitted my last week and it was easy, drilled 2 holes in the bottom off the scoop for tie wraps tie wrapped it to the slam pannel and it fits perfectly, doesnt shake or look daft and it took me about a hour to fit tbh.
    
    It gives a nice throaty roar under harsh acceleration and i would definatly recomend it to anybody tbh.
16. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #16 25th November 2008, 15:42

    i have had the origional green cotton enclosed kit, which im guessing the raceland and ecosse ones are based on.
    it was an awesome bit of kit and i loved it.
    fit was spot on and quality was cool, i have had it on both of my cars, but i ended up smashing it in a rage once, lol long story.
    
    the raceland kit seems to do the same job, alot of peeps tend to fit a green cotton filter to the induction kit in place of the raceland filter.
    
    on my vts, i found the best setup was a pipercross panel filter in the standard airbox, remove all the shitty pipework and have a direct cold air feed pipe coming from under the bumper.
    its a OEM box and does a good job of keeping the heat at bay, i guess they spent alot of cash developing a air intake system, so its good for something and still retains the standard under bonnet look, just with out the mega loud induction roar
    
    i figue a few quid saved on the induction setup with a cheap perfectly good uprated panel filter, will allow me to spend a wee bit extra on other areas
    
    i wanted a carbon induction kit like the procomp, but spent the money on big bigger brake setup (283mm)
17. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #17 25th November 2008, 15:50

    personaly no, but i dont like the raceland stuff.
    
    You get what you pay for.
18. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #18 25th November 2008, 15:51

    In order
    
    K&N Gen II - pricey, but looks a decent bit of kit
    BMC Enclosed - i have one, imo the cheaper carbon ones are just as good.
    Viper - wouldnt waste my time.
19. daz_rt_04 Regular Poster Joined: May 2008 Yeovil Posts: 390 Stealthy Saxo VTS

    #19 25th November 2008, 16:03

    as mentioned, ive got the green panel filter in the standard box, with all the plastic shit removed, cold air feed fitted down to the foglight. jobs a good un.
20. gdwelsh Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Skelton - Saltburn Posts: 826 306 GTi-6 / Saxo VTS

    #20 25th November 2008, 17:10

    My Vipers fine and dandy, certainly don't feel like its letting my VTS down.
21. maddison_vts Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Torbay Posts: 1565 2000 phase 2 Saxo VTS Turbo 2000 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #21 25th November 2008, 17:40

    wouldn't really bother with a raceland, i purchased one for mine and regretted it. anyone who has ever looked at it has said what cheap crap it looks. if i was buying another induction kit, it would be the bmc.
22. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #22 25th November 2008, 17:43

    Quote:

    In order K&N Gen II - pricey, but looks a decent bit of kit BMC Enclosed - i have one, imo the cheaper carbon ones are just as good. Viper - wouldnt waste my time.

    Disagree
    
    I think the raceland is pretty good
    
    Procomp
    K&N Apollo
    Gen 2 57i kit
23. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #23 25th November 2008, 17:48

    its all about price vs performance.
    
    The raceland - yes its cheap and not the greatest kit out there but when you spend £300 on another induction do you get twice as much extra performance. I say not.
24. Anthony Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR

    #24 25th November 2008, 20:41

    I fitted a raceland the other week, was a bit of a hassle, drilling holes/making brackets to fit to the slam panel etc. But it looks ok tbh, i cant say if ive noticed a noticable difference in performance, but differently sounds better.
25. Jaytee Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2006 Tyldesley, Manchester Posts: 5276 1.Saxo VTR 2.Saxo180

    #25 26th November 2008, 01:30

    the raceland with the green sounds absoloutly mean. Awesome rhyme i did there. Not really too much hassle to fit me an ryan got mine done in about an hour.