Important! : goin low!

1. Tbutler5 Newbie Joined: Nov 2008 cheshire Posts: 1 saxo vtr

   #1 25th November 2008, 15:05

   i gt a vtr a few months ago and have decided 2 lower it!
   
   bt nt sure how low i shoulg go or what springs are best?
   
   any advice would be helpful thanks
2. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

   #2 25th November 2008, 15:26

   dont go too low matey, it seems to wear the shite out of your stub pins on the rear beam and costs a canny bit to fix, twat to do as well.
   
   i would just go 40mm tbh
3. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

   #3 25th November 2008, 15:27

   as for springs, have a word with kam racing on here, he can sort you out with some
4. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #4 25th November 2008, 15:49

   40mm FTW
5. Slammed_Posi_Vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2006 Royal Tunbridge Wells y0 Posts: 2602 Icelandic VTR

   #5 26th November 2008, 11:23

   i reckon 60mm all round looks the nuts tbh
6. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

   #6 26th November 2008, 13:22

   I also am lowering soon and want to go 40mm, whats the best springs i can get?
7. OllieVTR16 Newbie Joined: Nov 2008 Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 16 Black 03 VTR

   #7 26th November 2008, 15:15

   aye im also in this process can sumbody link me some springs + shockers, ill prefer 60mm tbh
8. Mike_08 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Birmingham Posts: 2401 Subaru Impreza WRX

   #8 26th November 2008, 15:45

   Newbies search button FTW
9. Claire-VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 Lurgan N.Ireland Posts: 102 2002 Saxo, 1.6 vtr!

   #9 26th November 2008, 16:04

   Try this site, loads of options for suspension on it!
   
   http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...product=425557
10. Claire-VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 Lurgan N.Ireland Posts: 102 2002 Saxo, 1.6 vtr!

    #10 26th November 2008, 16:06

    Sorry, meant to just link the site not suggesting that actual product, but I have heard avo kits are good!
11. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #11 26th November 2008, 16:12

    best suspension depends on the use the car will get
    
    you could go out and spend several hundred quid on pugsports and then realize there too hard for the road
    
    I would suggest some decent shocks (like billie b8s) and something like some apex springs or maybe some light faulkners (around 150-160lb)
12. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #12 26th November 2008, 16:28

    so what springs drop 40mm?
13. Claire-VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 Lurgan N.Ireland Posts: 102 2002 Saxo, 1.6 vtr!

    #13 26th November 2008, 16:33

    There's far too many to say, try out that link and hoke around that site, or try a few of these,
    
    www.potn.co.uk
    www.europerformance.co.uk
    www.venommotorsport.com
    
    theyre all pretty much the same but their prices may vary, just search for parts for your car and itll give you all the options! Hope that helps
14. Claire-VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 Lurgan N.Ireland Posts: 102 2002 Saxo, 1.6 vtr!

    #14 26th November 2008, 16:34

    Oh and id go for 60mm!
15. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #15 26th November 2008, 17:13

    I'd only go 30mm
    each to there own really
    but like I say don't just buy expensive stuff and expect it to be good
    I had eibach springs before n found them to be shit
    
    tbh suspension is a fine art to get right
16. Saxo_Scott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 East Grinstead - West Sussex Posts: 3094 BMW E46 M3

    #16 26th November 2008, 17:22

    I would go for some of these if you’re after some good stuff.
    
    Lowers 35mm but looks 40ish when settled. Good for road use and light track use.
    
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...prings-58.html
17. Berg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 rugby Posts: 3766 MK2 VTS, Ibiza Cupra 20VT

    #17 26th November 2008, 17:38

    depends what your after
    
    practicality? smooth ride?
    35-40mm
    
    looks?
    60mm and lower imo
18. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #18 26th November 2008, 18:17

    yeh i just want it to handle well and dont wanna spend more them 100 quid for now, since ive just paid for the car nd need to sort me savings out (which wont happen with everything im looking to buy haha)
19. Saxo_Scott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 East Grinstead - West Sussex Posts: 3094 BMW E46 M3

    #19 26th November 2008, 18:28

    save and get a better set up. no point wasting good money
20. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #20 26th November 2008, 18:30

    GMAX 35mm set up any good?
21. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #21 26th November 2008, 18:33

    the dampers + springs set i mean
22. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #22 26th November 2008, 18:33

    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...saxo-1119.html this set
23. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #23 26th November 2008, 21:20

    for 100 quid you won't get dampers
    don't use just springs
    
    just leave it for a couple months till you can afford the dampers too
24. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #24 26th November 2008, 21:28

    yeh i meant just the springs, for now.
25. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #25 26th November 2008, 21:54

    I wouldn't use just springs
    not only can it ruin the dampers
    
    but it can make some adverse charecteristics from the car such as a bouncy ride as standard dampers cant keep the spring under controll
    
    yea a lot of people do it
    
    but honestly it's not good
26. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #26 26th November 2008, 22:05

    my god its nowt but doom and gloom from you haha.
27. scottyvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 Paisley / Brighouse lol Posts: 4561 Corsa VXRacing

    #27 26th November 2008, 22:20

    try here aswell loads of stuff some of the prices are a bit dearer than some other prices but a good place to start
    
    http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/
    
    ours is 50mm front 45mm rear!!!!
28. Berg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 rugby Posts: 3766 MK2 VTS, Ibiza Cupra 20VT

    #28 26th November 2008, 22:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DusheR my god its nowt but doom and gloom from you haha.

    
    its the truth tho mate
    
    i had my old vtr 60mm front and back on standard shocks
    it felt like there were no shocks at all, bangy as fook
    
    anyway
    
    its upto you at the end of the day
29. OllieVTR16 Newbie Joined: Nov 2008 Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 16 Black 03 VTR

    #29 27th November 2008, 15:04

    Thanks for all the help and links, I've found a Gmax suspension kit that I think is fine but I'd like sum1 to give the OK that it will fit straight onto my Saxo (VTR 03 model) which is completely standard at the mo. heres the link, can anyone quickly tel me weather ill need to buy anything else for the kit to work or is everything I need included?
    
    http://www.potn.co.uk/p1250573.htm
30. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #30 27th November 2008, 16:36

    id rather seem doom and gloom that advise ou to ruin your car mate lol
    
    that kit doesnt look too bad tbh
    similar to the budget spax kits (i ran a 200 quid kit on my 1.1 and it was pretty good)
    
    should do the job
    wont be anything spectacular but wil be better than just springs
31. Saxo_Scott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 East Grinstead - West Sussex Posts: 3094 BMW E46 M3

    #31 27th November 2008, 16:46

    if you dont want to spend mega bucks then go for these
    
    http://www.potn.co.uk/p1322447.htm
32. OllieVTR16 Newbie Joined: Nov 2008 Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 16 Black 03 VTR

    #32 27th November 2008, 19:01

    so u recomend spax then?....ill go for this, as i want it to lower 60mm not 40mm. thx for the help, just one more thing tho, it says 96- does that mean only 1996 and lower?? cos mines an 03 model.
    
    Cheers, Ollie.
33. OllieVTR16 Newbie Joined: Nov 2008 Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 16 Black 03 VTR

    #33 27th November 2008, 19:01

    http://www.potn.co.uk/p1322448.htm
    
    heres the link lol ^^
34. Saxo_Scott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 East Grinstead - West Sussex Posts: 3094 BMW E46 M3

    #34 27th November 2008, 19:29

    yeah that should fit i had the 40mm kit on my furio and that was a 2003
    
    no reason why the 60mm wont fit
    
    although there are better kits out there if you want to wait
35. R66CE_O_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 chelmsford, essex Posts: 304 lupo turbo 330bhp

    #35 27th November 2008, 19:45

    im looking to buy another saxo when i sell my car, before i had it 60mm on the front and 80mm on the back, can u get 80mm or lower springs for the front? as i want to slam it more than my last 1, i aint fussed about handling just want it low, very low
36. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #36 27th November 2008, 19:50

    with coilovers you can go low
    
    but there a lot more than springs and shocks
    
    lee_vtr1 is aroud 100mm down at the front on modded coilies
    really its how but your wallet is and your imaginatio
37. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #37 27th November 2008, 20:02

    60-90 ftw!
38. R66CE_O_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 chelmsford, essex Posts: 304 lupo turbo 330bhp

    #38 27th November 2008, 20:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS with coilovers you can go low but there a lot more than springs and shocks lee_vtr1 is aroud 100mm down at the front on modded coilies really its how but your wallet is and your imaginatio

    see with a vw u can get 120mm adjustable coilovers for like 600£
    
    i jus want it sittin very low with wide wheels and stretched tyres
39. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #39 27th November 2008, 20:08

    yea for a vw were the chassis will accomodate that
    
    on a saxo past about 90 you need to start notching the shell to give clearance
40. Pat_Vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 North London Posts: 6170 Land Rover Discovery

    #40 27th November 2008, 20:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by R66CE_O_vtr see with a vw u can get 120mm adjustable coilovers for like 600£ i jus want it sittin very low with wide wheels and stretched tyres

    i know ur old vtr
    
    fooking mint motor dude
41. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

    #41 27th November 2008, 20:53

    Get it down low, 60mm.
    
    EDIT: Mines 60mm front, and at a guess 80 back. Maybe more. These are 15s btw.
    
    
42. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #42 27th November 2008, 20:54

    60s not low though
43. R66CE_O_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 chelmsford, essex Posts: 304 lupo turbo 330bhp

    #43 27th November 2008, 21:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pat_Vts i know ur old vtr fooking mint motor dude

    yeh i keep seein it about still got my private plate on it i will get that back soon, its making me want another but more euro style this time, so it is possible to go 80mm all round on a set of 15's
44. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #44 27th November 2008, 21:07

    ive seen 100 front 120 back on 15 inch rims mate
45. Samp Newbie Joined: Jan 2008 Stoke Posts: 28 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #45 27th November 2008, 21:08

    yeah mate go for the 40mm all round, should look sweet
46. R66CE_O_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 chelmsford, essex Posts: 304 lupo turbo 330bhp

    #46 27th November 2008, 21:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS ive seen 100 front 120 back on 15 inch rims mate

    do you no the bloke who owns it want to find out how he done it, see i want the stance look it dont look good wiv the back lower than the front but would be very nice to get the front down 100mm thats more like a vdub style which is wot im after, wide cambered wheels
47. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #47 27th November 2008, 21:15

    yea i know him quite well
    
    hes got modified coilovers with shortened springs (soon to be custom faulkners) and pugsport shortened inserts
    
    below is his font ride height
    
    
    
    
    also the rear is up to about 95mm now as it was on the stops before
    looks mint
    
    camber on a saxo/106 is a no no mate the rear beam doesnt unless its collapsed
48. ShaneVtr Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 Chesterfield Posts: 890 Mk1 Vtr

    #48 27th November 2008, 21:25

    This is mine, -60mm.
    
    
    
    This kit, spax VSX kit. Cant really compare it to any other kit unfortunatly, but i like the way it handles.
    
    Its abit bumpy on crap roads but im happy to put up with it.
49. R66CE_O_vtr Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 chelmsford, essex Posts: 304 lupo turbo 330bhp

    #49 28th November 2008, 01:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS yea i know him quite well hes got modified coilovers with shortened springs (soon to be custom faulkners) and pugsport shortened inserts below is his font ride height also the rear is up to about 95mm now as it was on the stops before looks mint camber on a saxo/106 is a no no mate the rear beam doesnt unless its collapsed

    see now thats the look im after, that looks real nice, my old saxo drove past me earlia and it must be 100 maybe 120mm at the back and looking at it now the springs have set in looks alot lower on the front aswel so think im gonna go 80mm on the front and 80 maybe 100mm on the back see how it looks, wots the smallest wheel can you fit over vtr brakes???
50. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #50 28th November 2008, 10:18

    yea it looks ace
    i think the gmax coilies go 80mm so just get them
    ive heard of 13s over the 247mm brakes but not seen it
    my steelies caught but an alloy might clear
51. OllieVTR16 Newbie Joined: Nov 2008 Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 16 Black 03 VTR

    #51 28th November 2008, 15:16

    Ok thx Scott, im gonna go for them, but while were on the subject of helping newbies ....maybe you can recommend an induction kit thats on that sight aswell, I just wanne buy it all in one sweep, are K&N any good?
    
    Cheers, Ollie.
52. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #52 28th November 2008, 15:21

    for induction you want an enclosed kit really
    with a decent straight cold air feed itll do the job well
    
    open filters (such as k&n) arent really reccomended
53. OllieVTR16 Newbie Joined: Nov 2008 Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 16 Black 03 VTR

    #53 28th November 2008, 15:26

    Cheers pal, im open to recommendations, especially if its something youve already done to your car, and by air flow do you mean a pipe from the front leading to the filter? if so are they easy to do?
    
    Cheers again,
    Ollie.
54. Slammed_Posi_Vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2006 Royal Tunbridge Wells y0 Posts: 2602 Icelandic VTR

    #54 28th November 2008, 15:36

    BMC CDA Mate, they are generally considered as the best for the saxo, look on the kam racing site on here and you get a discount for being with saxp, ill link you up if i can be arsed
55. Slammed_Posi_Vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2006 Royal Tunbridge Wells y0 Posts: 2602 Icelandic VTR

    #55 28th November 2008, 15:41

    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/club-disc...tr-vts-48.html
    
    Thats a good one
    
    or this
    
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...o-vtr-167.html
56. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #56 28th November 2008, 16:00

    either the bmc (i have 1)
    or a raceland with a green filter (my mate has 1)
    
    there both good the raceland wont need a cold air feed though
57. OllieVTR16 Newbie Joined: Nov 2008 Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 16 Black 03 VTR

    #57 1st December 2008, 21:03

    i think ill go for the Raceland one then mate, thats an easy fitment too isnt it?
    
    Cheers.