westcoast rallye

1. Ade14wc Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Stoke on trent Posts: 245 Saxo 1.4 westcoast

   #1 26th November 2008, 21:49

   has anyone on here done a westcoast rallye conversion if so could you tell me what i need besisdes the obvious or of any good sites with info on it i allready have a rallye head ecu an wireing loom an intake
2. Ade14wc Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Stoke on trent Posts: 245 Saxo 1.4 westcoast

   #2 26th November 2008, 22:20

   bump...
3. jamie8v Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 durham Posts: 725 mk5 zetec s fiesta black

   #3 26th November 2008, 23:08

   what are you asking?? puting the 1.3 rallye engine in? or thorrtle boddied rallye slag?
4. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #4 27th November 2008, 00:12

   do rallye heads go on westcoasts, the channals or whatever dont line up properly irc.
5. willo-1 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 durham Posts: 2102 track car

   #5 27th November 2008, 09:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by db_sax do rallye heads go on westcoasts, the channals or whatever dont line up properly irc.

   they are both tu engines
6. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #6 27th November 2008, 09:38

   a 16v vts/gti engine is a TU but u cant slap a head off that one a tu3jp
7. willo-1 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 durham Posts: 2102 track car

   #7 27th November 2008, 09:44

   rallye heads not 16v though is it
8. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #8 27th November 2008, 09:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by willo-1 rallye heads not 16v though is it

   
   i woulda thought its like putting a xsi head on, still 8v still 1.4 but u cant couse the lines dont line up mate.
9. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #9 27th November 2008, 10:57

   if you mean dropping the engine in it can be done yes
   
   pretty straight forward
   only thing is the s1 (the 1.3 s2 was a 1.6) ecu mount is different
   can be sorted by putting the saxo mount on the rallye engine
   or welding the rallye cradle into the saxo shell
10. Ade14wc Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Stoke on trent Posts: 245 Saxo 1.4 westcoast

    #10 27th November 2008, 21:06

    putting a rallye head on i already know they fit just wanted to find a bit of info on what i need
11. Ade14wc Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Stoke on trent Posts: 245 Saxo 1.4 westcoast

    #11 28th November 2008, 21:50

    anyone???
12. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #12 30th November 2008, 19:53

    why not just buy a 1.3 rallye? but am not sure on what you need to put the head on. the 1.3 rallye has around 100-103bhp standard anyway which is faster then vtrs.
13. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #13 30th November 2008, 23:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ade14wc anyone???

    
14. vtr-tec Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Newark Posts: 540 Saxo vtr 16V CRX VT 91' Civic EK

    #14 1st December 2008, 09:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax a 16v vts/gti engine is a TU but u cant slap a head off that one a tu3jp

    The 16v Head actually does line up however it will never work due to other parts not aligning etc.
    
    The 8v heads are almost identical. if you wanted a rallye head you would need the inlet, TB, Wiring and ecu to make it work properly.
    
    I have seen it work a few times and sometimes getting nearly 120bhp with breathing mods. however that seems a bit high.
    
    Just go straight for 16v if your spending that sort of money. it is 120bhp to start with and is very revvy. the better base you start with the better
    
    james

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15. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #15 1st December 2008, 21:45

    Vts engine is the way forward mate............
16. Ade14wc Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Stoke on trent Posts: 245 Saxo 1.4 westcoast

    #16 6th December 2008, 19:13

    anyone got any videos of one working i bought a full engine for 100 quid cuz the piston rings are fooked an the head is mint
17. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #17 6th December 2008, 20:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax i woulda thought its like putting a xsi head on, still 8v still 1.4 but u cant couse the lines dont line up mate.

    Not so, they fit fine. Actually the 1.3 106 rally uses the same block as the alloy 1.4. The 106 1.6 XSI, 106 1.4 XSI, 106 1.6 Rallye, 106 1.3 Rallye and Saxo 1.6 VTR heads all fit any of the TU 1.4 blocks.
18. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #18 6th December 2008, 20:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by willo-1 rallye heads not 16v though is it

    On mainland Europa they did sell a 16V 106 rallye however we mever got that in the UK. We got the 1.6 8V rallye that has a engine very similar to the 106 1.6 XSI and the 1.3 8V rally that was effectively a XSI head on the alloy 1.4 block but with a custom short stroke crank that was only ever in the 1.3 rallye and sport engines.