Roll cage fitting help needed

1. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

   #1 27th November 2008, 15:07

   I have one of the OMP bolts in cages and wanted to trial fit it and mark where I want my door bars before I take it to the bodyshop to get the plates welded in. But I can't even get the front section inside the car. Any hints or tips?
2. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #2 27th November 2008, 15:11

   take the front seats out?
   
   If you havnt already that is.
   
   when fitting a cage its best to have no interior in the car imo,
3. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #3 27th November 2008, 15:16

   strip everything out the car
   
   seen a few guys think they have a dash dodger and they dont that can cause a few issues
4. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

   #4 27th November 2008, 15:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alex-VTS strip everything out the car seen a few guys think they have a dash dodger and they dont that can cause a few issues

   everything but the dash is out. I thought I could at least get it kind of in with the dash still there
5. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #5 27th November 2008, 16:32

   is it a dash dodger though??
   
   if not then you wont as itll follow the a pilar all the way to the bottom of the screen and youll need the dash out and to trim it to get it to fit
   
   if it is a dash dodger then you should be able to with a bit of manouvering
6. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

   #6 27th November 2008, 16:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alex-VTS is it a dash dodger though??

   I think the dash will need cut. I can't even get the front section through the door though.
7. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #7 27th November 2008, 16:53

   best way to get it in the door is put the front leg through and roll the cage forward to get it to squeeze in
   
   the hard part is the last leg really
   we put my mates in his xsi the other night and even with 3 of us putting t in we struggled

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8. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

   #8 27th November 2008, 16:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alex-VTS best way to get it in the door is put the front leg through and roll the cage forward to get it to squeeze in the hard part is the last leg really we put my mates in his xsi the other night and even with 3 of us putting t in we struggled

   Thats the part that I am stuck with. Guess I need a hand then. Cheers
9. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #9 27th November 2008, 16:56

   yea there a pain
   kinda glad my cage is fully unassembled lol
   
   just means more fitting costs
10. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #10 27th November 2008, 18:02

    iirc all omp cages require the dash cutting. Mine certainly does. Also sunroof handle and courtesy light console needs removing to get it in. Headlining is a good thing to remove as well.
    
    A ratchet strap comes in very useful to squeeze the legs together as well I found. Makes it a bit easier

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11. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

    #11 27th November 2008, 18:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andy_K iirc all omp cages require the dash cutting. Mine certainly does. Also sunroof handle and courtesy light console needs removing to get it in GONE . Headlining is a good thing to remove as well. GONE A ratchet strap comes in very useful to squeeze the legs together as well I found. Makes it a bit easier

    I had thought about a ratchet strap after reading about the fitting of a cage in a clio
12. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #12 27th November 2008, 18:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andy_K iirc all omp cages require the dash cutting. Mine certainly does. Also sunroof handle and courtesy light console needs removing to get it in. Headlining is a good thing to remove as well. A ratchet strap comes in very useful to squeeze the legs together as well I found. Makes it a bit easier

    Nope all old OMP cages such as the bolt in were made to be fitted with dash uncut.
    exibit A
    
    
    You can fit the old type with the light console in place etc.
    
    Best thing is to get rear section in the car first, then fit the front leg trough the open door first so the other dog is running parallel with the car iirc.
    
    Then position it more upright once in the shell.
13. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #13 27th November 2008, 18:12

    easyest way to know if its a dash dodger btw is if it mounts to the rear arches, and if the feet dont have box sections to be welded in first
14. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #14 27th November 2008, 18:13

    all OLD omp cages ryan
    
    some new ones dont
15. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #15 27th November 2008, 18:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS all OLD omp cages ryan some new ones dont

    see my post mate stop correcting something that doesnt need correcting
16. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #16 27th November 2008, 18:14

    My bad
    
    (assumed he has bought a brand new one )
17. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #17 27th November 2008, 18:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan see my post mate stop correcting something that doesnt need correcting

    i saw you said old omp cages
    
    but i was just highlighting the old and saying some of the newer ones dont miss the dash
    
    i wouldnt correct you mate you know more than me lol
    was just highlighting the point
18. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #18 27th November 2008, 18:19

    it was because of a change in FIA regs iirc which is why the new cages have front legs that are closer to the A pillar, and therfore no longer dodgers of el dasherooo
19. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #19 27th November 2008, 18:22

    yea i know lol
    i dunno which he has (havent spotted him saying) so it might dodge
    
    i just wanted to make sure he knew not all omps dodge it
20. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

    #20 27th November 2008, 21:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan it was because of a change in FIA regs iirc which is why the new cages have front legs that are closer to the A pillar, and therfore no longer dodgers of el dasherooo

    hmmm...so should it have FIA certificate then?
21. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #21 27th November 2008, 21:18

    it has to be fitted by an fia certified fitter to get that iirc
22. bullit Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2005 e-hollywood Posts: 17160 toyata hilux

    #22 27th November 2008, 21:21

    i cut my hands putting mine in. tight as a nuns crutch