bike throttle bodies

30th November 2008, 08:49

I have been looking into getting a vts engine and turboing it, but thinking about getting bike bodies for cost and reliability reasons instead of turboing. what would be best bike bodies to get? do they still keep the injection as heard some people say dont but seen bodies forsale and are injection ones. what sort of power would i be looking at if fitted to vtr? and vts? with 4 branch and full system. What sort of price would i be looking at not including remap.

30th November 2008, 09:11

well you wont need a remap, you will need a new standalone ecu, as far as im aware.

i looked into this a while ago, got up to £1500 of parts in my list and figured id jsut spend that money of driving the car, not making it faster.

have a search on here mate, this question gets asked lot

30th November 2008, 09:14

you would want to cam and then fit them much better gains , cam and bodies together will get you near 160 bhp on a vts
god knows what you would gt outta a vtr?

if you want power that way best to get:
forgies,conrods
mega lairy cams
kms bodies
standalone ecu +fuel management

30th November 2008, 09:17

also you can get 155bhp with out bodies, on a std intake, for 5hp, £1000 worth of bike TB's is not really cost effective, unless your going forged, high comp, mental cams as suvvys says.

30th November 2008, 13:49

im running R6 boddies need an ecu at the moment but when i was running the emerald management it was very very fast. i cant give power figures as havent had it rolling roaded but the noise power and acceleration was brilliant

thats with standard cam 4 branch and supersprint exhaust. oh and a s1 rallye box

need to purchase some cams and a new ecu to get it back on the road

30th November 2008, 15:51

Im looking at getting some gsxr1000 bodies now, does it make any difference what sort of bodies you get or is the noise and power figures pretty much the same?

30th November 2008, 15:54

im guessing the bigger the boddies the more fuel and air can get through

30th November 2008, 16:13

dont go too big tho, as you loose power

30th November 2008, 16:17

buying some gsxr1000. What you think? should be ok for vtr/vts? what sort of power will get out of them when set up properly? can i just get ecu mapped or will i have to buy standalone? what would cost to get mapped?

30th November 2008, 16:19

think you need a standalone mate, is it for a vtr or S, as i think GSXR1000's are 48mm and rather to large for a vtr, i could be wrong.

id ecpect 160hp with full map and cams, manifold, good induction kit and a good exhaust system.

30th November 2008, 16:28

is that for vtr? well got a 03 vtr but am looking at building a cam'd bodied vts engine before fitting. what do you think would be best cam to get for it?

30th November 2008, 16:30

if you can afford to do that why dont you just buy proper boddies? or buy edwards motor for 4k and its 180ish bhp iirc

30th November 2008, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobbo_1

if you can afford to do that why dont you just buy proper boddies? or buy edwards motor for 4k and its 180ish bhp iirc

bargain

30th November 2008, 17:05

it is for a proper job with ecu and everything power and cheep dont go in the same sentence tbf

30th November 2008, 17:31

What sort of power would i get from doing it to my vtr engine? what sort of 0-60 top speed times also? And also if did to vts? well im going to get all parts and build it up so dont skimp on things,etc. would prefer to get done to vts. what cams would reccomend to go with it?

30th November 2008, 17:43

jsut buy a vts engine, and fit that, you will be stunned what 30hp and a usable power delivery can achieve .

then mabe cam it, with a remap and you can get upwards of 160hp.

my VTS is cammed but no map, i recon about 140hp with other mods, but its super stripped, i mean SUPER its about 720kg and goes like fuck, corners like fuck and brakes.......you get the idea

1st December 2008, 09:37

What cam would suit gsxr bodies for vts engine,? how much would a inlet manifold cost and where from? would be able to remap standard ecu and how much and wheres a good place to get done? how much cams to get fitted? Am just getting a round idea of how much all going to cost me and best parts to get for what i can afford.

1st December 2008, 10:09

I think the best would be to get from R6. I saw on ebay they are 40mm. They are original for vtr with small modifications

1st December 2008, 12:45

have a search mate bin covered many times and as for cam any boddies just let you run wild cams but you could go mild if you wish

1st December 2008, 13:20

Well getting gsxr 1000 bodies. what sort of cams you think would be ok? whats difference between wild n mild cams? is it just higher rpm for wild or are do they make it quicker? i know 708 are quite wild cams arent they. What sort of price would cost to fit cams and what sort of bhp would be looking at?

1st December 2008, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobbo_1

it is for a proper job with ecu and everything power and cheep dont go in the same sentence tbf

second hand though its still about 1k overpriced imo.

1st December 2008, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by don55

also you can get 155bhp with out bodies, on a std intake, for 5hp, £1000 worth of bike TB's is not really cost effective, unless your going forged, high comp, mental cams as suvvys says.

brad its not the bhp though that has such a benifit, you cant really measure increased throttle response on a set of rollers, although bodies should give a better midrange.

1st December 2008, 17:08

Are these a good idea then? £120 for bodies are cheap considering about 1k for proper one and they do pretty much the same dont they. and should have about the same gain and performance!

1st December 2008, 17:27

bodies will do the same, getting them fitted with a good, bench flowed manifold, along with a standalone, is another story

yer ryan, i know they can effect mid range too, i was jsut being ignorant

1st December 2008, 17:32

personally im not a fan of bike bodies, just seen alot of set ups that look bodged to me.

alot use silicone to mount them to an inlet that isnt ideal. A few seem to bodge the throttle linkage to

1st December 2008, 17:32

Whats best cam, etc to get? what sort of setup would you guys recommend?

1st December 2008, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by don55

yer ryan, i know they can effect mid range too, i was jsut being ignorant

alot of people ignore them as they dont give cock enlarging bhp figures. As the real gains are hard to measure

1st December 2008, 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsdvtr

Whats best cam, etc to get? what sort of setup would you guys recommend?

not a clue with the 8v, tuning one has no interest to me so not researched it,

1st December 2008, 17:35

Thought you would be going turbo as you had a thread about that didn't you?

1st December 2008, 17:41

he cant decide

1st December 2008, 19:25

Ive decided that turboing would be to much hassle and cost alot more and less reliability, etc as use car daily. so am sticking with bodies. just want ideas for a good setup!

1st December 2008, 19:30

why not put a VTS engine in, see how you get on, in a few weeks if you want more power get bodies.

its not like its any harder to do any of it when its in the car, its gota get in there somehow lol.

1st December 2008, 20:37

Well that what i was going to do, get the bodies for a vts but want to get the vts engine and clean it up n paint it,etc before goes in. What cams,etc would be good setup? i got car all stripped to for power to weight. Could i fit a vtr 4 branch manifold to vts engine?

1st December 2008, 20:38

unless you want to do it properly and spend £££ fit 708s

1st December 2008, 20:38

you still got dash ?

1st December 2008, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

unless you want to do it properly and spend £££ fit 708s

yer 708's

this is tripped

1st December 2008, 20:44

brad you decided not to be gay and add weight then

Ive left my dash in now, looks alot better when on the road and track, less likely to get police and track day officials being picky. I hath the power to make up for a few KG

1st December 2008, 20:49

thats not a current pic, i have this to go in.

1st December 2008, 20:54

I saw you were thinking about adding a big lump of metal with sharp edges a few months back

you gonna sort the pass seat aswell as the std seats weigh a ton.

1st December 2008, 20:57

for road use it will stay in i think, cant be fucked to spend £150 on a seat like.

yer it was all minging and bare, not its been flocked, trimmed and looks alot better.

2nd December 2008, 00:56

The smallest problem is to buy throttle bodies. but the bigest problem is how to fitted on your saxo and to work properly

2nd December 2008, 09:41

wanting quik replys!!! Is it def worth me paying £120 for gsxr bodies then?

5th December 2008, 00:58

hi people, are these throttle bodies easy to fit as i have wondered about them for ages. they seem pretty cheap on ebay an have wanted to modify my vts for a while. the only stuf i have done so far is air filter an a decat which blows like mad at the flange!

5th December 2008, 08:15

No you cannot buy GSXR throttle bodies and bolt them to your car.

You need a manifold. A guy called Sandy Brown on the 106rallye forum makes a PnP one, so go see him. I think it's bodies to him, + £500 or something and he'll make them PnP.

Then you need management, which for a 1-plug VTS I can do very reasonably.

Cams, PH3 or 708's are the fashion, don't waste your money on piper or kent, because they are far too expensive for zero tangable gain.

4-2-1 manifold, supersprint exhaust, bodies, PH3's and management, and you'll be maxing your injectors but probably getting up towards 165-170bhp. At that level the car will totally fly.

Andy

5th December 2008, 17:10

Andy thats a type of reply ive been looking for weeks now!

good job someone is on the ball and knows what they are talking about! cheers