Raceland induction kit problems with Mk2 VTS

  1. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)
    #1
    Ok decided to start a new thread about the raceland induction kit as although the one as a sticky on here is very useful its closed and cant be commented on or discussed.

    Fitted my kit today but the bonnet doesnt close too well because the kit sits quite high due to the fact that I have a pipe running underneith the kit from what looks like a vacuum unit. Il put up some piccys and hopefully someone with a Mk2 VTS has already overcome this problem...?

    Also wanted to fit a bigger battery but now cant cos the kit covers the remaining space in the battery holder

    Here is a few piccys, pls advise if you know how to overcome this problem





    It also catches on this wire type clip that seems to be keeping the radiator attached to the car?

  2. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Workington, Cumbria Posts: 1025 2001 mk5 Fiesta ZS
    #2
    My mk1 VTR was the same mate. I cut the radiator clips down a little shorter, knocked up a bracket and stuck it down. The silicon pipe provided wasnt long enough either, so i also had to extend it. Worth it though mate I just need to find a decent size silicone pipe for the breather hose.
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)
    #3
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by si_pow View Post
    My mk1 VTR was the same mate. I cut the radiator clips down a little shorter, knocked up a bracket and stuck it down. The silicon pipe provided wasnt long enough either, so i also had to extend it. Worth it though mate I just need to find a decent size silicone pipe for the breather hose.
    The standard hose for the breather tube is perfect, see my pictures! Do you know what the circled bit is and how to overcome the problem? Im worried its gonna wear the top of the ind kit box due to rubbing on the bonnet... or rub the paint off the bonnet!?
  4. Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Workington, Cumbria Posts: 1025 2001 mk5 Fiesta ZS
    #4
    Its different on my mk1 mate. The breather pipe needs to be longer, and i dont know what that is. lol. im no good with things like this mate. Plenty of people on here will be able to help im sure Good luck. Let me know what its like when its sorted
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Skelton - Saltburn Posts: 826 306 GTi-6 / Saxo VTS
    #5
    The picture with the item highlighted shows the EGR - many people have removed it, I myself have, you can search EGR and research.
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  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gdwelsh View Post
    The picture with the item highlighted shows the EGR - many people have removed it, I myself have, you can search EGR and research.
    Typed EGR in search and nothing came up which I find strange! maybe site not working properly, do you know what it is and what it does?

    Do you have a link at all?
  7. Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Suffolk Posts: 759 MK1 VTR
    #7
    The EGR valve, or Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve, is a vacuum controlled valve which allows a specific amount of your exhaust back into the intake manifold. This exhaust mixes with the intake air and actually cools the combustion process. Cooler is always better inside your engine. The exhaust your EGR valve recirculates also prevents the formation of Nitrogen related gases. These are referred to as NOX emissions, and are a common cause for failing emissions testing. your EGR valve can get stuck, causing NOX gases to build up. You'll know if your EGR valve is stuck or malfunctioning because your car will experience symptoms like rough idle and bucking on accelertaion.
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)
    #8
    ok done a bit of research and LOADS of people remove it and have had no problems for years, its in my way so has to go!
    What I need to know is if anyone had written a guide on how to remove the whole lot from start to finish?
    Also I saw mention of putting a 2 pence piece in the hole under the bracket on the side of the engine and putting some putty or weld aroud it and then screwing the bracket back to the engine? Anyone comment on this?
    I just went outside and saw the huge thing in the drivers front arch with the electrical connections, supposedly this can be removed also, which is good cos it looks like it weighs loads!

    Anyone got a guide or can do one?

    <si_pow> go to local hydrolics centre for breather hose or garage or find out the internal diameter of the hose and order it through Ebay!
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Suffolk Posts: 759 MK1 VTR
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lippy View Post
    ok done a bit of research and LOADS of people remove it and have had no problems for years, its in my way so has to go!
    What I need to know is if anyone had written a guide on how to remove the whole lot from start to finish?
    Also I saw mention of putting a 2 pence piece in the hole under the bracket on the side of the engine and putting some putty or weld aroud it and then screwing the bracket back to the engine? Anyone comment on this?
    I just went outside and saw the huge thing in the drivers front arch with the electrical connections, supposedly this can be removed also, which is good cos it looks like it weighs loads!

    Anyone got a guide or can do one?

    <si_pow> go to local hydrolics centre for breather hose or garage or find out the internal diameter of the hose and order it through Ebay!
    if you take it off, block it up don't forget you will need it back on for the mot
  10. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Skelton - Saltburn Posts: 826 306 GTi-6 / Saxo VTS
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lippy View Post
    Also I saw mention of putting a 2 pence piece in the hole under the bracket on the side of the engine and putting some putty or weld aroud it and then screwing the bracket back to the engine? Anyone comment on this?
    Hey, I bought a blanking kit from the forum here for £5 but 2pence or any metal that will fill the hole will be sufficient.

    Yes remove the pump by all means, it will certainly save weight and remember to keep the electric loom tied up and away from any water.

    P.S you have PM.
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp
    #11
    get bonnet raisers
  12. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lippy View Post
    The standard hose for the breather tube is perfect, see my pictures! Do you know what the circled bit is and how to overcome the problem? Im worried its gonna wear the top of the ind kit box due to rubbing on the bonnet... or rub the paint off the bonnet!?
    You will need to cut bit off the corner bud!! i got rid of mine in the end and went back to k&n 57i.............
  13. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS
    #13
    By the way that isn't an EGR valve as at doesn't interact with the exhuast system at all.

    It is simply a fresh air pump used to help emissions on cold starts. It can be removed to save a bit of weight and tidy up the engine bay.
  14. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bluearmy View Post
    if you take it off, block it up don't forget you will need it back on for the mot
    I have heard that you actually dont need it back on for the MOT unless your engine is quite old and emits more pollution due to its age?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gdwelsh View Post
    Hey, I bought a blanking kit from the forum here for £5 but 2pence or any metal that will fill the hole will be sufficient.

    Yes remove the pump by all means, it will certainly save weight and remember to keep the electric loom tied up and away from any water.

    P.S you have PM.
    Your a star cheers for the PM and help so far! Who can I buy a blanking plate from on here?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by evans1089 View Post
    get bonnet raisers
    Bonnet raisers raise the rear of the bonnet though, not really the very front or am I wrong? I really dont like the looks of bonnet raisers much to be honest anyway... most people will look at it and just think its broken!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxokid100 View Post
    You will need to cut bit off the corner bud!! i got rid of mine in the end and went back to k&n 57i.............
    Sweet, cheers

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Finchowned View Post
    By the way that isn't an EGR valve as at doesn't interact with the exhuast system at all.

    It is simply a fresh air pump used to help emissions on cold starts. It can be removed to save a bit of weight and tidy up the engine bay.
    I know its not actually an EGR valve now due to research but its easier than saying 'the fresh air pump that doesnt connect to the exhaust' and everyone knows what your on about if you say EGR... lol

    Cheers

    SO WHERE DO I GET A BLANKING PLATE FROM?
  15. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Skelton - Saltburn Posts: 826 306 GTi-6 / Saxo VTS
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lippy View Post

    SO WHERE DO I GET A BLANKING PLATE FROM?

    EGR Blanking Plate There you are mate.
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  16. Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR
    #16
    I got around this problem by putting the raceland underneath that pipe, like so:



    Doesn't look that bad imo, and saves all the hassle with removing it etc
  17. Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dudley Posts: 1593 saxo vtr mk1
    #17
    do you have these problems on mk1 vtr
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ant809099 View Post
    I got around this problem by putting the raceland underneath that pipe, like so:

    Doesn't look that bad imo, and saves all the hassle with removing it etc
    Cool cheers for the piccy, can you leave the links active so that other people can read it in years to come!? will be really usefull!
    Im gonna remove the Fresh air inlet valve & pump anyway to save a bit of weight and my local mechanic said its useless anyway tbh... Brought some 3mm Alu today as im gonna fabricate a blanking plate, just need to find out where I can buy some cardboard gasket and make that too
    yours doesnt look bad at all!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mufcdouble View Post
    do you have these problems on mk1 vtr
    I dont know anything about the VTR's sorry bud but hopefully someone else reading this thread will post a reply!
  19. Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dudley Posts: 1593 saxo vtr mk1
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lippy View Post
    Cool cheers for the piccy, can you leave the links active so that other people can read it in years to come!? will be really usefull!
    Im gonna remove the Fresh air inlet valve & pump anyway to save a bit of weight and my local mechanic said its useless anyway tbh... Brought some 3mm Alu today as im gonna fabricate a blanking plate, just need to find out where I can buy some cardboard gasket and make that too
    yours doesnt look bad at all!



    I dont know anything about the VTR's sorry bud but hopefully someone else reading this thread will post a reply!

    mine come today and want to know bout problems before i start messing,cheers anyway
  20. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..
    #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mufcdouble View Post
    mine come today and want to know bout problems before i start messing,cheers anyway
    Just stick it on bud!!..........................
  21. Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dudley Posts: 1593 saxo vtr mk1
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxokid100 View Post
    Just stick it on bud!!..........................
    will do 2moro
  22. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..
    #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mufcdouble View Post
    will do 2moro
    They do sound and look mint..............
  23. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mufcdouble View Post
    mine come today and want to know bout problems before i start messing,cheers anyway
    No probs bud thats why I created the thread cos it seems to be slightly more complicated/different fitting it to different vechicles!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxokid100 View Post
    Just stick it on bud!!..........................
    If only it was that easy to do it properly on every saxo! true though you never know how it will go until you have started!
  24. Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dudley Posts: 1593 saxo vtr mk1
    #24
    where do i put the stainless bracket that came with induction kit
  25. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mufcdouble View Post
    where do i put the stainless bracket that came with induction kit
    The bin... thats what everyone has done that I have spoken to, i kept it to see if i would need it at a later date for something that it actually fits... the brackets need to be made by yourself!
    I used 2 small right angled brackets and the scoop rests on them at the moment, it clears the manifold cover and because its not bolted to the scoop and the front panel it doesnt try to rip the filter apart when the engine is revving!
    Should I do a how to guide? the other one doesnt apply to Mk2's... esp ones with the fresh air intake pump...
  26. Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 Birmingham Posts: 2401 Subaru Impreza WRX
    #26
    cba to read the posts but i had same trouble just removed it lol
  27. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mike_08 View Post
    cba to read the posts but i had same trouble just removed it lol
    what did you block it up with? if you tell all then maybe you can make it easier for other people to do in the future!