News : B&M Quikshift

1. turbotom Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R

   #1 3rd December 2008, 23:23

   I bought one a few weeks ago and only just fitted it. If anyone is thinking about buying on and not sure what to do. BUY ONE! I love it and feels so good to drive. I had a chopped down stick before but it was nothing compard to a B&M!
   
   Hope this helps you decide!
2. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #2 3rd December 2008, 23:27

   lol good aint they
3. turbotom Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R

   #3 3rd December 2008, 23:38

   is mint mate. the gear knob is quality aswell. sounds silly but is perfect size for a hand lol
4. DawsonWicked Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Doncaster Posts: 1348 VW Golf GT TDI

   #4 3rd December 2008, 23:46

   iv got a b and m and its damn sweet lol !
5. turbotom Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R

   #5 3rd December 2008, 23:48

   yeah i didnt think there would be a lot of differnce but i was soooo wrong lol... highly reccommended lol
6. Ben Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost

   #6 3rd December 2008, 23:49

   Whats so different about it, if you don't mind me asking
7. turbotom Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R

   #7 3rd December 2008, 23:52

   its just doesnt feel sloppy anymore... you no if yu hold your gearstick and wobble there is normaly a lot of play, well there is nothing, feels a lot smother on gearchange and just a great, simple upgrade
8. Ben Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost

   #8 3rd December 2008, 23:53

   Hmm, how much are these? Is it much work to fit etc?
9. turbotom Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R

   #9 3rd December 2008, 23:56

   iirc there around £100 give or tae a few pounds. i got mine cheaper off a lad on here that never fitted it. yeah there easy to fit. have to get underneath the car aswell so obviously getting it as high as possible is easier
10. deanomx206 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Rugby,Midlands,CV21 Posts: 3244 MK2 VTS

    #10 3rd December 2008, 23:58

    any pics? whats difference between this and a quickshift?
    and where can you get them from?
11. turbotom Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R

    #11 4th December 2008, 00:02

    no pics yet mate but i could get some. well this is a quickshift but there is so many different brands and this one came up. for some reason B&M call it a quikshift lol. you might be able to get hold of them off kam, if not try searching ebay or just google it mate
12. deanomx206 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Rugby,Midlands,CV21 Posts: 3244 MK2 VTS

    #12 4th December 2008, 00:29

    what does B&M stand for?
13. bluenotesmiley Established Member Joined: May 2008 Thanet, Kent Posts: 1529 White MkII VTS Black MkII VTS

    #13 4th December 2008, 00:46

    This place sells them.
    
    MotorSportWorld
    
    Don't know what they are like though, anyone else dealt with them before?
14. CooperVTR Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Telford Posts: 864 Gold Saxo VTR

    #14 4th December 2008, 01:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by deanomx206 what does B&M stand for?

    pretty sure it's just the company that makes them.
15. deanomx206 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Rugby,Midlands,CV21 Posts: 3244 MK2 VTS

    #15 4th December 2008, 01:06

    does it come with gaiter and knob ye>
    do you need anything to fit the gaitor in place so it holds in?
16. CooperVTR Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Telford Posts: 864 Gold Saxo VTR

    #16 4th December 2008, 01:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by deanomx206 does it come with gaiter and knob ye> do you need anything to fit the gaitor in place so it holds in?

    It comes with the knob, you just use your original gaiter surround.
17. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #17 4th December 2008, 01:34

    what are they like compared to the griffiths?
18. craigy_87 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2006 Wishaw United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7326 Nissan 350z

    #18 4th December 2008, 01:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bluenotesmiley This place sells them. MotorSportWorld Don't know what they are like though, anyone else dealt with them before?

    never dealt with them but there just about 10 min drive from mine
19. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #19 4th December 2008, 13:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by deanomx206 any pics? whats difference between this and a quickshift? and where can you get them from?

    the b&m is a quickshift its just a different type to what you may have seen
    the b&m replaces the origonal stick ans is slightly shorter above the pivot and longer under the car (the compbrakes work on a similar principal but replace the pivot with an adjustable one)
    likage attatchments just lenghten one of the under car linkages to reduce the throw
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Viper what are they like compared to the griffiths?

    similar kind of feel really mate
    some say its a little more positive but i cant see how tbh (but ive not drive a car with a linkage attatchment type)
20. user_25971 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Herts Posts: 700 2001 VTR

    #20 4th December 2008, 20:57

    Does the kit simply replace the top bit accessible from inside the car? The stick and link to the gearbox rod?
21. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #21 4th December 2008, 20:59

    it replaces the stick
    you pop the old stick out and drop this in
    
    if your skillful you can do it all from inside but it requires very nimble fingers lol
22. turbotom Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R

    #22 6th December 2008, 00:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS it replaces the stick you pop the old stick out and drop this in if your skillful you can do it all from inside but it requires very nimble fingers lol

    very very nimple fingers lol ha ha
23. Berg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 rugby Posts: 3766 MK2 VTS, Ibiza Cupra 20VT

    #23 6th December 2008, 00:08

    ive been looking at these for ages but i didnt think you could use you gear gaitor again
    
    or is that with the compbrake?
24. turbotom Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R

    #24 6th December 2008, 10:07

    i not sure mate cause i took the centre bit out and left it out lol... i would of thought you could use the gaitor again as its not structurly different to a standard one!
25. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #25 6th December 2008, 21:33

    does it really make a differnece? if you gto a standard saxo and ne with a quicksift would it make that much of a difference?
26. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #26 6th December 2008, 22:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Berg ive been looking at these for ages but i didnt think you could use you gear gaitor again or is that with the compbrake?

    you can use the gator with the B&M, as this only replaces the stick and pivot ball. The comp brake one replaces the whole plastic area as well and to keep the gator need to make a bracket to hold the plastics around it.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 does it really make a differnece? if you gto a standard saxo and ne with a quicksift would it make that much of a difference?

    Shortens the throw of the stick, so doesn't really matter how tuned your car is, just helps change gear a it quicker.
    
    I have had B&M and comp brake quick shifts numerous times, and in my opinion it makes it feel nicer to drive but thats it tbh
27. user_25971 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Herts Posts: 700 2001 VTR

    #27 6th December 2008, 22:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The_Notorious_C_A_T you can use the gator with the B&M, as this only replaces the stick and pivot ball. The comp brake one replaces the whole plastic area as well and to keep the gator need to make a bracket to hold the plastics around it. Shortens the throw of the stick, so doesn't really matter how tuned your car is, just helps change gear a it quicker. I have had B&M and comp brake quick shifts numerous times, and in my opinion it makes it feel nicer to drive but thats it tbh

    And so the question is, B&M or Comp Brake?
28. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #28 6th December 2008, 22:38

    B&M, short enough throw and easier to fit, and the B&M doesn't have shitty grub screws like the comp brake. Although it's more expensive but not much really.
29. user_25971 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Herts Posts: 700 2001 VTR

    #29 6th December 2008, 23:20

    Thanks dude, roll on Xmas!
30. The_Notorious_C_A_T Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone

    #30 7th December 2008, 00:00

    there are cheap ones on ebay as well. Tbh I can't see any difference between them and the B&M except price and the name on it, well except the shape of the gear knob like.
31. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #31 7th December 2008, 17:20

    is the VTR and VTS B&M shifter the same?
32. turbotom Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Leamington Spa Posts: 1852 Black Saxo VTRS Land Rover Discovery x2 S1 106 R

    #32 7th December 2008, 17:34

    yeah mate should be the same

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33. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #33 7th December 2008, 17:41

    shweet
34. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #34 7th December 2008, 20:18

    all the shifters will fit any model saxo
    
    they all run the same linkages
35. Shak Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Bournemouth Posts: 176 saxo vts 106 xsi

    #35 7th December 2008, 23:57

    Can you put any gear knob on or only the b&m?
36. user_25971 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Herts Posts: 700 2001 VTR

    #36 8th December 2008, 19:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bluenotesmiley This place sells them. MotorSportWorld Don't know what they are like though, anyone else dealt with them before?

    Do they do discounts for Sax-P? Any other traders?
37. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #37 21st January 2009, 22:23

    hmm ive been looking on sites for the B&M nd cant find any that says its for mk2 saxos? all say 96-00. the motorsportworld price has shot up aswell. and that doesnt say its for the mk2 either...
    
    HELP
38. LEE_VTR1 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 6476 RB RS 200

    #38 21st January 2009, 22:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DusheR hmm ive been looking on sites for the B&M nd cant find any that says its for mk2 saxos? all say 96-00. the motorsportworld price has shot up aswell. and that doesnt say its for the mk2 either... HELP

    mk1 mk2 there identical mate
    
    get one ordered i love mine
39. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

    #39 21st January 2009, 22:30

    ive got a ge quickshift is there alot of difference between the b and m and the ge one
40. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #40 21st January 2009, 22:36

    From what I remember when we looked at re-stocking these when they came back, the new distributor only gave something like 10% discount to trade. Motorsportworld may do a little off but it wont be a lot....
    We thought they were too expensive so stayed with the compbrake as these are better value
41. de4n0 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 nottingham Posts: 1250 2003 citroen saxo vts.

    #41 21st January 2009, 22:39

    is there any better one or are they all the same, and a link to where you got it from?
42. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #42 21st January 2009, 22:45

    http://www.rtecshop.com/index.php?p=...roduct_id=2502
    
    around £110 delivered. cheapest ive found
43. de4n0 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 nottingham Posts: 1250 2003 citroen saxo vts.

    #43 21st January 2009, 22:46

    so these are worth 124 quid then? as im about to order one but dont want to waste my money. cheers
44. de4n0 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 nottingham Posts: 1250 2003 citroen saxo vts.

    #44 21st January 2009, 22:48

    that pic looks different to the one i found.
    
    http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/fra...ick-shifts.htm
    
    if you look here the one in the pic doesnt even fall under c?
    
    http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/fra...ick-shifts.htm
45. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #45 21st January 2009, 22:53

    doesnt fall under c?
46. de4n0 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 nottingham Posts: 1250 2003 citroen saxo vts.

    #46 21st January 2009, 22:59

    if you look on the secound link it gives you 2 pictures and then for e.g. a-L then the secound pic is for cars from L-Z. and the pic of the one in the other link isnt the same pic as on msw under the c catagory.
47. peebee Established Member Joined: Jun 2004 Worcester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2209 Saxo VTR MK2

    #47 21st January 2009, 23:13

    Where did you buy it from dude? The price seems high for the saxo and lower for other cars!
48. de4n0 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 nottingham Posts: 1250 2003 citroen saxo vts.

    #48 21st January 2009, 23:14

    probobly because this post has been made and they know where all going to buy one haha.
49. peebee Established Member Joined: Jun 2004 Worcester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2209 Saxo VTR MK2

    #49 21st January 2009, 23:15

    lol stranger things have happened!
50. de4n0 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 nottingham Posts: 1250 2003 citroen saxo vts.

    #50 21st January 2009, 23:17

    so what i want to know is are these worth 125 quid, i do have to move my gear stick alot to get it into gear as to all of us and its a little dificult to get it into 2nd form 1st, will this solve is and how much does it reduce the movment to? half?
51. mattevts Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 bury st edmunds Posts: 572 saxo vts 147.1bhp

    #51 22nd January 2009, 17:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by de4n0 so what i want to know is are these worth 125 quid, i do have to move my gear stick alot to get it into gear as to all of us and its a little dificult to get it into 2nd form 1st, will this solve is and how much does it reduce the movment to? half?

    if your finding it difficult to change gear maybe your gearbox ain't right like sycro mesh worn or something if this is the case then a quick shift wont solve this and properly make it worse. so you my need to fix problem first, if you have a problem with your gearbox dos it crunch or grind sometimes when you change gear, because you shouldn't have difficulty changing gear especially 1st to 2nd. if your gear box is OK then the b&m should be fine with a lot quicker gear changes.
52. readie Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 leeds Posts: 2430 05' Clio 182

    #52 22nd January 2009, 17:51

    whats better the b&m one http://www.griffiths-engineering.co.uk/ or the one on kam racing?
53. t-brown Newbie Joined: Sep 2008 conwy Posts: 11 saxo vtr

    #53 23rd January 2009, 16:27

    I just fitted a comp brake one from kam today and i love it.
    Easy to fit once you have removed the plastic ball of the original shifter
    And you can use the standard gaiter just have to find a way to secure the plastic surround as its normally screwed into the standard shifter block thing
54. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #54 23rd January 2009, 16:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by de4n0 how much does it reduce the movment to? half?

    they reduce the throw by 25%
55. hagg L-plater Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 48

    #55 28th January 2009, 10:20

    Has any one used both the b&m/compbrake method, and the GE method on a car to compare?