VTS rear suspension, what's the difference?

1. r_i_c_h_1 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 305

   #1 6th December 2008, 19:48

   Basically I've bought a VTS of my boss for £500, just needs the rear beam replacing. He's already got one to go in it, only thing is it's drums (not too bothered about that) but it's marked up as a 106 diesel!!
   
   Just wondering if the tortion bar is dirrerent (not in fitment, but in handling) or is it just the dampers? Don't really want it wallowing around!!
   
   Cheers.
2. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #2 6th December 2008, 19:56

   put the trailing arms on off from your vts with new bearings in. also use your torsion bars and arb.
3. r_i_c_h_1 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 305

   #3 6th December 2008, 22:45

   I would, but the reason it needs it replacing is the bearings broke up and f***ed it for lack of a better phrase. The VTS setup was notably heavier, I assume it has a thicker tortion bar meaning stiffer suspension? Any details for someone who's had them both apart would be great.
   
   Cheers.
4. r_i_c_h_1 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 305

   #4 6th December 2008, 22:45

   I would, but the reason it needs it replacing is the bearings broke up and f***ed it for lack of a better phrase. The VTS setup was notably heavier, I assume it has a thicker tortion bar meaning stiffer suspension? Any details for someone who's had them both apart would be great.
   
   Cheers.
5. VTRcraig Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 coventry Posts: 275 black and silver race car vtr, many saxo projects

   #5 6th December 2008, 23:17

   the drum beams are not as wide as the disk ones, therefore look crap with the vt arches, what you need to do is as said above, put your vts trailing arms on the drum beam, and put new bearings and seals on (£50 for the lot) then you have a basically brand new beam. alternativly just buy a re con vts beam.
   
   p.s you cant use the drum beam because it dont have abs on either
6. r_i_c_h_1 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 305

   #6 7th December 2008, 17:50

   Just putting the beam wiv the drums on because I got it with the car, will put a VTS one back on at some point. How much is a recon one? Don't really fancy buying a used one.
7. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #7 7th December 2008, 19:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by williamsvts put the trailing arms on off from your vts with new bearings in. also use your torsion bars and arb.

   i think the stub pins are different sizes mate
   the drum runs a smaller diameter
   
   it will fit straight on the car but the torsion bars and arb are smaller so will be softer on the rear and will roll more
   you could put the vts bars in the drum beam (i think the torsion bars run the same splines) i know the arb fits in as i did it on my 1.1
   
   i personally would source another beam as you got the car so cheap
8. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #8 7th December 2008, 20:11

   beams are the same size. its the arms which are different. just put new bearings in the vts arms and put them on the new beam.
9. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #9 7th December 2008, 20:16

   fair enough then (i was sure the drum was smaller but williams is doing pins so hs prolly right lol)
   
   thats probably the best plan
   use the vts bars and arms you should be fine
10. r_i_c_h_1 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 305

    #10 7th December 2008, 22:13

    Thanks guys
11. pimpin-vtr-boi Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 ashby de la zouch Posts: 186 white mk2 vtr

    #11 7th December 2008, 23:06

    m8 just nock the stub axles out the vts axle and fit them to ya uva 1 and bobs your uncle
12. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #12 8th December 2008, 08:59

    you need to drill a hole in the to press them out. but why would he want to do that when
    1) the vts stubs and bearings are fucked
    2)drum beam is the same
13. VTRcraig Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 coventry Posts: 275 black and silver race car vtr, many saxo projects

    #13 8th December 2008, 10:22

    what do you need to drill a hole in to get them out? ive never drilled anything when dismantling beams/repacing bearings.
14. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #14 8th December 2008, 11:10

    do you press the stubb pin out of the beam? pressing the pins out of the yellow beam im on about.