Few questions about 1.1's

  1. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Wakefield Posts: 315 VTR
    #1
    On a flat arch, i know plenty of people ask about slamming a vtr engine in there, but people say its too much hard work, how hard can it be?
    Also what about 1.4 engines from the westcoasts and furios, would they go in too?
    Ive tried a search but i never found out what the price would be to do it, and what kind of place would do it?

    Can someone let me know please, itl change alot of plans on my car.
    Cheers.


    Danbo
  2. Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Watford Posts: 590 Boosted 16v VTR
    #2
    yeah the 1.4 engins can be dropped in too. if you get an engine from the same year as your car you shouldn't have too many problems. The cost depends really, a 1.4 engine will be around £100 but then obviously you will have to pay someone to fit it or fit it yourself, depends how mechanically minded you are
  3. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Wakefield Posts: 315 VTR
    #3
    Yeah, i know a few places i could get either a vtr engine or a 1.4, I just would like the experience of transforming my first car into something abit more original you know, Do you think many places would fit it, or do you think it would be specialist? also what do you think the price would be for fitting?

    I'm guessing also a few other things would have to be replaced so that the car can handle the speed, and so that i can get the best performance.

    Danbo.
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0
    #4
    tbh mate its not worth it. Get a furio as they look like vtr's and a vtr engine would have so much power on those shitty break of our 1.1's thats why they have discs all round. I guess a scrappy would fit it, i know the one i go to fit engines. You could connect it your self. Just drive shafts and the rest is cables.

    Hope your going to tel your insurance.
  5. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Wakefield Posts: 315 VTR
    #5
    Yeah i was going to do, most people say its not worth it, i just wouldnt mind seeing it done, and i guess it would be more original but, alot of other stuff would have to be replaced too i bet?
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0
    #6
    Breaks would have to be replaced (Break conversion too)
    Exhaust i'm guessing
    Suspension
    Wheels
    gear box

    Time you spent all that money you could had got a VTR and paid the insurnce.
  7. Established Member Joined: Feb 2004 southampton United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1881 Super stripped VTS transit camper iveco work hor
    #7
    i had a 1.1 flat arch with a vts engine, was mental fun.
  8. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 View Post
    tbh mate its not worth it. Get a furio as they look like vtr's and a vtr engine would have so much power on those shitty break of our 1.1's thats why they have discs all round. I guess a scrappy would fit it, i know the one i go to fit engines. You could connect it your self. Just drive shafts and the rest is cables.

    Hope your going to tel your insurance.
    Furio's don't have discs all round?
  9. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost
    #9
    i was going to do mine but what i had saved for the break covserion and that has pretty much paid for a mk2 vts just save mate. yeah it would be cool but you got to think safety aswell the 1,1 wasnt designed to have a 1,6 dropped in it
  10. Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR
    #10
    as above just get a 1.4 to begin with. tbh i really like the 1.4s there quite good. and can get allright power out of them. and they look the same.
  11. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 View Post
    as above just get a 1.4 to begin with. tbh i really like the 1.4s there quite good. and can get allright power out of them. and they look the same.
    1.4's only have 5BHP more then a 1.1.. They have a body kit like the VT but still have dums

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by don55 View Post
    i had a 1.1 flat arch with a vts engine, was mental fun.
    Can't believe that.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Danr View Post
    Furio's don't have discs all round?
    Nope.. Discs and Drums!
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #12
    no your wrong there 1.1 had 60 bhp and 1.4s had 75 bhp (in wescoast, furio, quiksilver form) and 100bhp in the old 106 xsis. Altho some 1.1 earlier carb ones had 55bhp.

    tbh Id save and get the usual brakes VT* or the 266mm setup, good suspension and that would be alright for a daily drive first car
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0
    #13
    You sure the Furio's have 75BHp... I'm SURE that its only +5BHP

    When i drove Joshwas Furio that was no different to mine expect gearing but thats cos it was a bigger engine. He said the same about mine.
  14. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #14
    75bhp everyone knows quiksilvers, furios and wescoast 1.4 alloy block mpi enignes are 75bhp
  15. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0
    #15
    Shit... Mines only 60BHP and we didn't even notice much difference at all.
  16. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0
    #16
    Ok.. Just looked on parkers and i'm wrong... i hold my hands up.

    15BHP isn't much difference tbh.
  17. Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Watford Posts: 590 Boosted 16v VTR
    #17
    Furios are mk1 vtr pace in my experience. leagues ahead of a 1.1 imo.
  18. Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Torbay Posts: 1565 2000 phase 2 Saxo VTS Turbo 2000 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #18
    seconded, a furio does seem about par with a mk1 vtr from previous experience. obviously weight, driver etc comes into it.
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by paxo89 View Post
    Furios are mk1 vtr pace in my experience. leagues ahead of a 1.1 imo.
    1.1i's are in a league of their own imo



    hehe
  20. Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Watford Posts: 590 Boosted 16v VTR
    #20
    ^^ haha made me chuckle
  21. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by paxo89 View Post
    ^^ haha made me chuckle
    please it made sombody lol
  22. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Wakefield Posts: 315 VTR
    #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by don55 View Post
    i had a 1.1 flat arch with a vts engine, was mental fun.
    :| How? haha

    Yeah ive been thinking about getting a furio, but is it still limited to what power you can get out of them like on a 1.1?

    Ive always wanted a vtr though imo, but i cant find anywhere that does cheap enough insurance.
  23. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Wakefield Posts: 315 VTR
    #23
    Forgot to ask aswell, with everything included, to make the car safe, with a VTR engine in it, how much do you think the price would be? (safe enough to pass its MOT)





    Danbo.