Vts fan setup on a vtr...

1. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

   #1 15th December 2008, 21:09

   Hi i am just wondering how hard it is to wire/fit a vts single fan in twin housing into a mk1 vtr ?, is the loom a straight swap over with the vtr one ? or do i need to hard wire it in ?
   
   Mark
2. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

   #2 15th December 2008, 21:13

   Isnt the radiator in the vts bigger than the one in the vtr? Not sure though
3. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

   #3 15th December 2008, 21:16

   Yeh, but it will still fit as a few people have fitted them ( Alex-Vts) and also because the fan bolts onto the slam panel it doesnt really sit on the rad like the mk1 vtr ones.
   
   Mark
4. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

   #4 15th December 2008, 21:31

   Oh cool might have a bash myself then
5. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

   #5 15th December 2008, 21:33

   Would you put in just 1 Vts fan in the double housing??
   (This sounds rude but I dont mean it to be) Whats the point if your replacing a single Vtr fan with a single Vts fan?
6. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #6 15th December 2008, 21:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by NICK2506 Would you put in just 1 Vts fan in the double housing?? (This sounds rude but I dont mean it to be) Whats the point if your replacing a single Vtr fan with a single Vts fan?

   i thought that but hey lol
   
   itll drop in but really id fit a vts rad aswell as the fan for better cooling
   
   im putting both on my xsi engined westcoast aswell as the vts oil cooler (as the car will basically only get track use)
7. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

   #7 15th December 2008, 21:37

   Yeh tbh im a bit of a whore sometimes so i mainly for looks tbh hahaha lol, and yeah just 1 fan in 2 housing.
   
   Mark
8. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

   #8 15th December 2008, 21:38

   Would the vts radiator and fan assembly bolt straight into the furio front pannel?
9. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #9 15th December 2008, 21:40

   yes there all the same front panel
   
   tbh theres no point unless you absolutely beast it all the time like
10. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

    #10 15th December 2008, 21:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS yes there all the same front panel tbh theres no point unless you absolutely beast it all the time like

    Will it make the idleing temp decrese?
11. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #11 15th December 2008, 21:43

    no as theres no air flowing over the rad to cool it
12. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

    #12 15th December 2008, 21:45

    fcuk it im gonna do it anyway..BIGGER is better!
13. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #13 15th December 2008, 21:46

    you do know theres such a thing as overcooling?
    
    ie it wont let your car get up to running temp and will eventually damage it
14. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

    #14 15th December 2008, 21:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS you do know theres such a thing as overcooling? ie it wont let your car get up to running temp and will eventually damage it

    Serious?
15. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

    #15 15th December 2008, 21:48

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Still worth it lol, hardly unlikely to overheat the engine, by adding a slight bigger fan..
    
    Mark
16. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #16 15th December 2008, 21:49

    Does a single VTS fan look different to the VTR fan? Is it bigger or do you think the twin housing looks better than the single housing??
17. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

    #17 15th December 2008, 21:50

    Yeh it looks different the vts has double fan housing, but 1 fan, but you can also add another fan hence there it being double housing !!!
    
    Mark
18. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

    #18 15th December 2008, 21:51

    Twin housing with twin fans in white would look the sex you could see them as there white
19. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

    #19 15th December 2008, 21:53

    Yes indeed, but if you add another fan, you have to run another wire to the inside of the car and a button to turn it on and off etc etc...
    
    Does anyone know if the loom of a vts fan will plug into the vtr rad/fan loom ?
    
    Mark
20. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #20 15th December 2008, 21:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LethalLurch Serious?

    yes
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxomark Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Still worth it lol, hardly unlikely to overheat the engine, by adding a slight bigger fan.. Mark

    just the fan will be fine
    on a vtr you can do the rad (if you drive hard but the 1400 dont get hot enough really as theres not as big a bang in em lol)
    i put all mine in as i have a vts
    and as said my westy is an xsi that will only ever get track use (so will live above 4k most of its life)
21. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

    #21 15th December 2008, 21:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxomark Yes indeed, but if you add another fan, you have to run another wire to the inside of the car and a button to turn it on and off etc etc... Does anyone know if the loom of a vts fan will plug into the vtr rad/fan loom ? Mark

    Just split the wireing from the original fan. not sure about other looms
22. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

    #22 15th December 2008, 21:56

    Yeh i only wanted the single fan but double fan housing, I didn't want 2 fans .
    
    Mark
23. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

    #23 15th December 2008, 21:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LethalLurch Just split the wireing from the original fan. not sure about other looms

    Split the wire ? then what lol im a noob on wiring..
    
    Mark
24. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #24 15th December 2008, 21:58

    you need the extra relays to run two fans i think
    
    but im pretty sure the vts loom doesnt plug into the vtr stuff properly
    hence i said use the 106 gti fan as it has a simpler loom
    
    i know thats what lee had to do
25. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #25 15th December 2008, 21:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxomark Yeh it looks different the vts has double fan housing, but 1 fan, but you can also add another fan hence there it being double housing !!! Mark

    Yeh i know that but i mean why spend the money to have a case with a space for a second fan but no fan. i dunno spose it would look better actually
    
    i want to paint my fan white as well, and then if i get a widemouth lower bumper and de-slat my grille you would see it spinning
    
    actually i kinda want a VTS housing now, and someone on hear sells the wiring and switch and stuff in a package to control a 2nd fan although a 2nd one is very pointless
26. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

    #26 15th December 2008, 21:59

    Yeh Was going to get 106 gti fan, just wondering how i would go wiring it to my vtr..
    
    Mark
27. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #27 15th December 2008, 22:06

    not sure about wiring it in
    
    bu tlike i said lee will proboably know
28. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

    #28 15th December 2008, 22:08

    Yeh i have pm'd Lee,
    
    thanks for help alex, and everyone else
    
    Mark
29. VTRacer Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 chelmsford essex Posts: 9291 mk1 westie, mk2 vtr

    #29 15th December 2008, 22:13

    if u get anymore info on how to wire these in mark pass the info on lol, cause i got a dual vts housing with both fans but need a rad still cheers
    
    mike.
30. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

    #30 15th December 2008, 22:16

    lol will do Mike, You can still fit it with your mk2 Rad, but obvioulsy vts/gti ones is bigger right ?, Yeh well when you fit yours, im sure ill be asking you how lol
    
    Mark
31. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #31 15th December 2008, 22:17

    vts rad is bigger yes
32. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #32 15th December 2008, 22:26

    If you do it mate, make a how-to-guide and get it stickied
33. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

    #33 16th December 2008, 20:40

    Ok Will do mate,
    
    Mark
34. dorsetsaxo Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dorset Posts: 1113 saxo vtr mk1

    #34 16th December 2008, 20:49

    on my mk1 the fan is in engine bay but on vts arent they behind bumper would this be a prob for twin conversion
35. saxomark Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Orpington, Kent Posts: 3475 Clio 172,Yamaha R125.

    #35 16th December 2008, 22:07

    Right on a mk1 vtr there are infront of engine bay, and on the vts they are bolted onto the slam panel, and also you just remove mk1 grill and then bolt it back on after
    
    Mark
36. davesaxo123 Newbie Joined: Apr 2013 aberystwyth Posts: 24 saxo vts

    #36 18th September 2013, 22:20

    if i fit the second fan in vts housing can i not link cables into cables originally on the first fan?
37. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #37 19th September 2013, 11:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Matt Serious?

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