Roll Cage

1. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

   #1 18th December 2008, 09:53

   Are there any roll cages around that a suitable for standard inteior i.e. dont have to remove seats etc.
   As i want to beef up the car incase it all goes bang. (im 6"6, if im squashed in im squashed in)
   Will it do anything to mu premium as its supporting the car?
   Cheers
2. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #2 18th December 2008, 10:05

   you wil not be able to fit a roll cage for protecton without removing most of the interior, DEFINATLY the rear seats etc
   
   Show cages can be fitted and keep the interior but wont do feck all if you crash.
   
   For a proper cage your looking at a 10 point bolt/weld in cage wich will weigh around 25-30kgs
3. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

   #3 18th December 2008, 10:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxo_89 you wil not be able to fit a roll cage for protecton without removing most of the interior, DEFINATLY the rear seats etc Show cages can be fitted and keep the interior but wont do feck all if you crash. For a proper cage your looking at a 10 point bolt/weld in cage wich will weigh around 25-30kgs

   Thanks!
   Im not sure what i want to do then. I dont want to loose the rear seats and i really want a propper cage(none of this shiny shit)
4. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #4 18th December 2008, 10:41

   well a proper cage means no interior lol
   
   basicaly.... you dont see a track car with rear seats do you??
   
   Or the GT3 porche, has a rol cage, not rear seats....
   
   Its a do or dont do situation really lol
5. dinga Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 not brazil,northern ireland Posts: 763 vts

   #5 18th December 2008, 10:48

   half cage ?
6. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #6 18th December 2008, 10:50

   to fit even a half cage you need to remove the rear seats rear doorcards the b pillar covers and cut the carpet to weld in the mount plates
   
   if it has front legs you may have clearance issues with the front doorcards
   
   also i strongly reccomend not using a cage and standard seats as theres a big pipe by your head and you will move about on bumps ect
   heabutting a cage wont be fun
7. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

   #7 18th December 2008, 10:58

   Thanks alot anyway guys. I think ile cage when i up grade
8. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #8 18th December 2008, 11:00

   may be worth gettin onto these guys MPS
   
   They can custom make cages, show cages full steel cages etc to how YOU want them....

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9. razza987 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Wolverhampton, W. Mids Posts: 101 VTR, Nissan 200SX, Vauxhall Omega, Reliant racecar

   #9 18th December 2008, 13:40

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxo_89 may be worth gettin onto these guys MPS They can custom make cages, show cages full steel cages etc to how YOU want them....

   Yes but even custom made cages will incur all the problems discussed above.
   If it's a track car, put a cage in. If it's a road car, don't
   The other thing to consider (which was lightly touched on above) is that in a caged car, without a helmet on, you stand to do a lot of damage to yourself in an accident. Standard interiors are designed to absorb impacts (from occupants) and make an accident as painless as possible. Even with padding on, the cage is a pretty hard object. If you're harnessed in to a bucket seat this will be less of a problem...
   Raz
   
   Oh, and it will affect your insurance, as damage to the car will be transmitted by the rollcage and cause more damage elsewhere. Insurance companies don't like them.
10. dannyboy2005 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0

    #10 18th December 2008, 18:08

    Why cage a Furio?
11. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #11 18th December 2008, 18:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 Why cage a Furio?

    Why not?
    
    People cage 1.3 mini's 1.2 fiestas etc etc
    
    You can race ANY caron track, butif its in a compotition you HAVE to have a cage, so asking "why cage a furio"" is abit silly.
    
    Dont have to have big power to have a big crash ...
12. dannyboy2005 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0

    #12 18th December 2008, 18:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxo_89 Why not? People cage 1.3 mini's 1.2 fiestas etc etc You can race ANY caron track, butif its in a compotition you HAVE to have a cage, so asking "why cage a furio"" is abit silly. Dont have to have big power to have a big crash ...

    I do suppose Saxo's are 2* nCap Rating lol.
    
    I like the 1.3 mini's... Damn quick too
13. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #13 18th December 2008, 18:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 I do suppose Saxo's are 2* nCap Rating lol. I like the 1.3 mini's... Damn quick too

    
    
    
    
    Yea, was thinking the other day it owuld be good ot get hold of one, strip the hell out of it, cage it, one bucekt seat and just use it as a track toy lol
14. dannyboy2005 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0

    #14 18th December 2008, 19:36

    One of the best handling cars ever... Chassie (sp?) is mega firm!
15. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #15 19th December 2008, 13:23

    i may look into it tbh
    
    Even if its not in that good condition, jst get one cheap and keep it ont he drive,
    
    You dont have to have tax and insurance for the track do you ??
16. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #16 19th December 2008, 13:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxo_89 i may look into it tbh Even if its not in that good condition, jst get one cheap and keep it ont he drive, You dont have to have tax and insurance for the track do you ??

    no but having track insureance is beneficial
    
    plus if its a shitbox they may not let you on track with it
    gotta think if its not roadworth will it take track abuse (answer is prolly not)
17. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #17 19th December 2008, 13:42

    Oh yea i understand that, i jst went liek get one with dents all over and stuff, not liek one that is going to collapse lol
    
    Would probs take out track insurance yes, but would try keep things cheap nut jst have a little fun in it tbh
18. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #18 19th December 2008, 13:46

    tbh taking a mint car on track is prolly a bad idea
    it will get a dent or scrape in the end
    
    but track insureance is rather expensive
19. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #19 19th December 2008, 13:48

    yea thats my point you see, get a little old mini, nothing flash, bang some dents out of it, make sure all is ok underneath, and jst track it, if it gets damaged i wont be botherd, just wack it back on the drive and fix it when i can.
    
    If i stuff it then it goes to scrap with not to much wasted etc
20. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #20 19th December 2008, 13:51

    only thing i would do is deffo cage it
    and get some seats and harnesses
    
    cause minis if you have a big off (which is easier than you think trust me) it will just fold up like a tin
21. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #21 19th December 2008, 14:05

    oh yea it wud defo be caged and would only be putting one seat in and probs have harness bars etc on the cage
    
    Dont no if this will DEFO happen, just an idea but would be kool, even if it wasnt a 1.3 it would still be fun on track!!
22. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #22 19th December 2008, 14:08

    dont need to be fast to be fun
    i was gunna rack my 1.1 at donny with guys like jpsaxo and scoobys ect up to caterhams and 355 full race spec ferraris lol
    
    its all about having a laugh tbh
23. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #23 19th December 2008, 14:09

    Yea exactly!!!
    
    I will look intoit and if it goes ahead a progress thread will DEFO be put up on here
24. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #24 19th December 2008, 14:11

    yea man
    be a bit like my westcoast
    cheap fun little car for just having a laugh in
25. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #25 19th December 2008, 14:12

    Minter tbh MINI
26. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #26 19th December 2008, 14:23

    dont look too shabby
27. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #27 19th December 2008, 14:24

    Probs get one cheaper, around the £300 mark, little project, not botherd if its batterd and beaten, aslong as it runs and doesnt have no structual damage all is good tbh