throttle bodies?

1. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #1 18th December 2008, 20:54

   mite of been asked before if so sorry im lazy hahah
   can you run throttle bodies on a standard ecu with remap, if so what are they like, is it worth is and whta throttle bodies would ppl recomend for a vts engine, just my mate has a set for an r1 i could probs get very cheap
2. user_24886 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 Notts Posts: 6227 White pug 106 1.6

   #2 18th December 2008, 20:57

   might have.. might have! its asked 5 times a day if you can afford em do it, youl need cams remap injectors and so on
3. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #3 18th December 2008, 21:06

   but it can be done on a standard ecu, good good, jus thinking up sum ideas for my conversion, cheers anywa
4. user_24886 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 Notts Posts: 6227 White pug 106 1.6

   #4 18th December 2008, 21:09

   i think you have to get a stand alone not to sure tbh
5. Roper Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Derbyshire Posts: 1815 Black 106 GTi Turbo

   #5 18th December 2008, 21:12

   you'll need,
   
   throttle bodies (of course)
   stand alone engine management,
   injectors,
   fuel rail,
   
   
   and much more,
   
   to buy and have fitted everything will cost anything from £3k+++
6. paul_vtec Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Caernarfon Posts: 297 Honda crx Saxo VTS Saxo VTR

   #6 18th December 2008, 21:17

   thats alot of bucks !!!
7. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #7 18th December 2008, 21:18

   bang wen that idea hahahaha
8. user_24886 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 Notts Posts: 6227 White pug 106 1.6

   #8 18th December 2008, 21:20

   indeed lol
9. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #9 18th December 2008, 21:23

   standard management runs my r6 bodies ok at the moment, just removed the vacum on the bodies to stop it over fueling and it runs alright. definatly need a standalone ecu if you want to actually gain power haha
10. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #10 18th December 2008, 21:34

    yeah? so did you not get any more power with jus the standard ecu or do you mean you got power but its no where near what there capable of? any chance you could post sum close ups of your set up 2 giv me sum ideas? cheers
11. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #11 18th December 2008, 21:48

    i would honestly say its running under powered at the moment but with a new ecu it would be good for 150-160 with my cams
12. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #12 18th December 2008, 22:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Roper you'll need, throttle bodies (of course) stand alone engine management, injectors, fuel rail, and much more, to buy and have fitted everything will cost anything from £3k+++

    From £3k onwards? I dont think so mate..
    
    Your talking around the £2k mark for parts/mapping/fitting.
    
    If you include headwork and cams then its more like 3k onwards...
13. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #13 18th December 2008, 22:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rushy_23 From £3k onwards? I dont think so mate.. Your talking around the £2k mark for parts/mapping/fitting. If you include headwork and cams then its more like 3k onwards...

    +1 .
14. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #14 18th December 2008, 22:36

    lol 3k!
    wtf bodies are they lol
    
    as above you can be running bodies for around 2k
15. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #15 18th December 2008, 22:40

    Alot of the ecus remeber though lads have issues with wiring in, if you dont go GheyMS you need it hardwired in where places charge silly fees.
16. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #16 18th December 2008, 22:44

    yea ryan i know
    but ref to fmps post about gdi on shed
    
    was just over 2 all setup and mapped iirc
17. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #17 18th December 2008, 22:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS yea ryan i know but ref to fmps post about gdi on shed was just over 2 all setup and mapped iirc

    and that was at pewseys negotiated rate
18. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #18 18th December 2008, 22:51

    though he said that was base he could negotiate less my bad
19. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #19 18th December 2008, 22:57

    i was talking to pewseys mate down at omex yesterday, he mentioned shed and the discount. i had a good chat with him and it seems a good deal.
20. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #20 18th December 2008, 22:59

    omex now own GDI iirc what matt said, so good times all round
    
    tempted to do it on the clio tbh lol!
21. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #21 18th December 2008, 23:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan Alot of the ecus remeber though lads have issues with wiring in, if you dont go GheyMS you need it hardwired in where places charge silly fees.

    The Hydra ECU thats on mine might be a good option if you're interested. Doesnt require any hardwiring.
    
    I can get some more information/give you a contact number if you're interested.
22. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #22 18th December 2008, 23:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan omex now own GDI iirc what matt said, so good times all round tempted to do it on the clio tbh lol!

    correct, the main guy is name rich but i taked to the one pewsey knows. seems a sound chappy. they had some good stuff in their new place though, 2 exiges in their with k20a engines and rotrex chargers and the westfield i had to pick up with a s/c duratec enigne 300bhp+ and 6-speed sequential hehe..
    
    anyway., the most popular option these days seems to be a set of jenveys and kms/omex/dta ecu.
    
    all depends on if you can do work yourself really as to the final cost.
23. Roper Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Derbyshire Posts: 1815 Black 106 GTi Turbo

    #23 18th December 2008, 23:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rushy_23 From £3k onwards? I dont think so mate.. Your talking around the £2k mark for parts/mapping/fitting. If you include headwork and cams then its more like 3k onwards...

    yeah well then.....
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannygti +1 .

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS lol 3k! wtf bodies are they lol as above you can be running bodies for around 2k

    and depending on what amount of power you want out of it
24. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #24 18th December 2008, 23:21

    and if you want 180+ bhp its a whole different ball park
25. vtr130 Established Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2279

    #25 18th December 2008, 23:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan and if you want 180+ bhp its a whole different ball park

    More like 6-8k
26. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #26 19th December 2008, 07:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Roper yeah well then.....

    Erm yes, well then.
    Your list didnt mention further work, just modified intake/ECU/fuel rail/injectors.
27. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #27 19th December 2008, 08:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 mite of been asked before if so sorry im lazy hahah can you run throttle bodies on a standard ecu with remap, if so what are they like, is it worth is and whta throttle bodies would ppl recomend for a vts engine, just my mate has a set for an r1 i could probs get very cheap

    There are a few people that have has some standard ECUs from the TU range of engine remapped but I should warn you this is not cheap and does not work ideally. I should also warn you that it is not possible on many of the ECUs. It is generally cheaper just to go with stand alone management. I will also warn you that R1 throttle bodies before 2002 or from and after 2007 are all no good to use. If your after throttle bodies I would recommend just getting a full kit from some one like GMC.