tyre choice

  1. Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456
    #1
    what would be the best tyre choice to do mostly road driving with 1 maybe 2 trackdays in '09
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #2
    what size?
  3. Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456
    #3
    7x15" nothing as hardcore as ao48 or r888 lol
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #4
    t1'rs
    yoko parada spec 2's

    tbh any tyre will be good for just one or 2 track days
  5. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #5
    just something decent like some eagle f1s or potenzas
  6. Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456
    #6
    cool on camskill the tr1's are £42 each and f1's are £50.50.
  7. L-plater Joined: Dec 2008 High Wycombe Posts: 44 Golf MK5 Gti Lotus Elise Saxo VTS
    #7
    out of interest just how much better would the R888/AO48's be over a standard good quality tyre then??? I'm meaning for track/race use
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Ely~ Posts: 4591 Mantis Blue VTR
    #8
    toyo proxies t1r's OMG! i had yoka's on befor and these toyos are sooooo much better!
  9. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AIRacing View Post
    out of interest just how much better would the R888/AO48's be over a standard good quality tyre then??? I'm meaning for track/race use
    a lot
    im not even able to explain how much better they are
  10. L-plater Joined: Dec 2008 High Wycombe Posts: 44 Golf MK5 Gti Lotus Elise Saxo VTS
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    a lot
    im not even able to explain how much better they are
    So well worth the extra money they cost then??
  11. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AIRacing View Post
    So well worth the extra money they cost then??
    in a different league mate!

    Think about the difference of standard suspension over uprated. in the tyre world thats the different bewteen the R888 and normal road tyre.
  12. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 not brazil,northern ireland Posts: 763 vts
    #12
    and if its raining ?
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dinga View Post
    and if its raining ?
    uni royal rainsport by far
  14. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AIRacing View Post
    So well worth the extra money they cost then??
    there not much extra over ordnary tyres tbh

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dinga View Post
    and if its raining ?
    be careful lol
    there a bit twitchy in the wet but unless theres standing water you can get away with it
  15. L-plater Joined: Dec 2008 High Wycombe Posts: 44 Golf MK5 Gti Lotus Elise Saxo VTS
    #15
    need to get them ordered then, is the group buy on here still going on??
  16. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 not brazil,northern ireland Posts: 763 vts
    #16
    think if id only be tracking my car a couple of times a year id stick to f1 gsd3.on the road fantastic grip in all conditions,even though the shoulders wear out quick.
  17. L-plater Joined: Dec 2008 High Wycombe Posts: 44 Golf MK5 Gti Lotus Elise Saxo VTS
    #17
    mines for track and race so R888's all the way
  18. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #18
    im very tempted for a set on my westy as its pure track use
    might do a few days on normal tyres then get a set lol
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AIRacing View Post
    mines for track and race so R888's all the way

    You want AO48 over R888
  20. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #20
    there very similar tyres and the 888s are cheaper

    the ao48s last a bit longer thats about it
  21. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Wolverhampton, W. Mids Posts: 101 VTR, Nissan 200SX, Vauxhall Omega, Reliant racecar
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by db_sax View Post
    You want AO48 over R888
    Can you justify that statement?
  22. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by razza987 View Post
    Can you justify that statement?
    just from what ive heard, the yokos are better.

    R88 are pretty good though from experience.
  23. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Wolverhampton, W. Mids Posts: 101 VTR, Nissan 200SX, Vauxhall Omega, Reliant racecar
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by db_sax View Post
    just from what ive heard, the yokos are better.

    R88 are pretty good though from experience.
    I've used both, I'd say they are very similar. However in my application, I found the Yokos tended to overheat and always finished a race with huge swathes of molten rubber on the surface. The Toyos however look fine with a nice even scrub over the whole surface. Grip levels are near-as-dammit identical. So for the price difference (which is quite substantial) I would always recommend the Toyos

    With reference to wear, i've done the equivalent of 8 races on the Toyos and they still have plenty of life in them yet.
    I wouldn't use them on the road though, as suggested above buy a spare set of wheels for track
    HTH,
    Raz
  24. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #24
    see raz ive heard the opposite of the toyos (one (front left) was pretty mullered after half a trackday and the right side was also wearing quite well)
    the yokos managed quite a few days and 2 trips to the ring

    but there are a few compounds available iirc so you may have had the harder ones
  25. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    see raz ive heard the opposite of the toyos (one (front left) was pretty mullered after half a trackday and the right side was also wearing quite well)
    the yokos managed quite a few days and 2 trips to the ring

    but there are a few compounds available iirc so you may have had the harder ones
    this is same as what i heard from Josh
  26. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #26
    it was jp i heard it saw it with
  27. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #27
    does depend on the compound and the suspension setup.

    Wallowy suspension eats tyres.
  28. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #28
    Anyone know what are the best tyres for 106 S2 Rallye steels?
  29. Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1967 Shag Wag
    #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Anyone know what are the best tyres for 106 S2 Rallye steels?
    Karl, have you snapped up a rallye?
  30. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #30
    not yet ~ looking at one later. whys that?
  31. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Anyone know what are the best tyres for 106 S2 Rallye steels?

    toyo CF1's by far
  32. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #32
    what profiles are they and can you link me?
  33. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    what profiles are they and can you link me?
    they look gash

    http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.p...=m4b0s403p6815

    BUT, id go as far as saying they are better than T1r's and yoko parada spec 2's. When the tyres are cold. Once the tyres are warmed up, theyre still good but not uite as good as the yoko's or the t1r's mate.
  34. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #34
    will 185s fit on a 6" wide rim?
  35. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #35
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    will 185s fit on a 6" wide rim?
    yeh standard theyre 175 mate.
  36. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #36
    so the 185s will fit yes?
    im guessing thatll give me more grip too..
  37. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #37
    width doesnt mae much difference karl

    personally i liked my t1r proxes but they seemed to get rather warm and i started to melt them a little in proper hard driving
  38. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2008 Telford, Shropshire Posts: 6563 Fabia VRs
    #38
    Goodyear eagle f1 imo
  39. Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Woodley, Reading Posts: 1322 www.thatpanelbeater.co.uk
    #39
    what about pure road use???
  40. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #40
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    so the 185s will fit yes?
    im guessing thatll give me more grip too..
    yeh theyre fine mate!

    And alex theyre 14" wheels mate, they dont do T1r's in them do they?