Green cottom ram air

1. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #1 22nd December 2008, 12:11

   FFS I keep seeing a new one nearly every bloody day...
   
   Had my mind set on a k&n gen 2, until I saw the price of how much a green cotton ram air one is these days...like £149, same price as the bmc
   
   Am sure the enclosed one always seems to get rather good results....
   
   Peoples reviews and pic please boys and girls
2. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

   #2 22nd December 2008, 12:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by leeroybrown FFS I keep seeing a new one nearly every bloody day... Had my mind set on a k&n gen 2, until I saw the price of how much a green cotton ram air one is these days...like £149, same price as the bmc Am sure the enclosed one always seems to get rather good results.... Peoples reviews and pic please boys and girls

   Couldnt get a better one tbh... don't get K&N they are crap and just suck in hot air= poorly engine!
   
   enclosed do the best job mate
3. Andy_OZ Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Jersey Posts: 222 Saxo VTR 2003

   #3 22nd December 2008, 12:23

   doesn't make too much difference as it is only a 1.6!
   
   k&n is fine thats what i use
4. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #4 22nd December 2008, 12:24

   Gen 2's have a heat shield
   
   You mean just like the raceland enclosed ones with the green filter? theyre only £75
5. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #5 22nd December 2008, 12:25

   just get a green for gods sake
6. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #6 22nd December 2008, 12:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by evans1089 Couldnt get a better one tbh... don't get K&N they are crap and just suck in hot air= poorly engine! enclosed do the best job mate

   I have heard excellent reviews on the gen2..comes with the heat shield and extra ram pipes
7. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #7 22nd December 2008, 12:26

   Quote:

   you mean just like the raceland enclosed ones with the green filter? theyre only £75.

   Can actually get the green cotton ram air one
8. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #8 22nd December 2008, 12:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by leeroybrown Can actually get the green cotton ram air one

   http://www.kamracing.co.uk/club-disc...tr-vts-48.html
   ???
   
   or am i getting confused?
9. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #9 22nd December 2008, 12:35

   Pred's got one on his car
   
   Proper green cotton filter made by green, which includes the enclosed case
10. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #10 22nd December 2008, 12:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeroybrown Pred's got one on his car Proper green cotton filter made by green, which includes the enclosed case

    the filter in that link is made by green mate.
11. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #11 22nd December 2008, 12:42

    but the casing aint
12. jaybiss Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2004 Solihull Posts: 18231 Two Tone Sax

    #12 22nd December 2008, 12:44

    is the casing going to make much difference though? they are both plastic.
    
    only reason i would get the proper green over the raceland green would be the fitment.
13. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #13 22nd December 2008, 12:44

    Leeroy I think that we've got a couple knocking around. Might be able to sort you out with a discount.
    
    The Green and Raceland are almost identical in design and one does not fit better than the other
    G
14. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #14 22nd December 2008, 12:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jaybiss is the casing going to make much difference though? they are both plastic. only reason i would get the proper green over the raceland green would be the fitment.

    Thats the only reason Jamie...the fitment
    
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing Leeroy I think that we've got a couple knocking around. Might be able to sort you out with a discount. The Green and Raceland are almost identical in design and one does not fit better than the other G

    
    The actually green cotton filter and the green cotton casing?
    
    Does it come with all the fittings for slam panel!
15. DawsonWicked Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Doncaster Posts: 1348 VW Golf GT TDI

    #15 22nd December 2008, 12:51

    http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...product=406208
    
    Thats what lessoi is talking about !
    
    
    
    On preds car.
16. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #16 22nd December 2008, 12:53

    Cheers Dawson thats the one...
    
    Pretty much get everything you need
17. corsa_rob Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Birmingham Posts: 207 Corsa Sport 1.4 (dead) Saxo ph2 VTS

    #17 22nd December 2008, 13:32

    whats the difference? im confused! how does the green fit better and what has it got that the raceland hasnt?
18. don55 Established Member Joined: Feb 2004 southampton United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1881 Super stripped VTS transit camper iveco work hor

    #18 22nd December 2008, 14:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by corsa_rob whats the difference? im confused! how does the green fit better and what has it got that the raceland hasnt?

    not so much abouit fitment, but the green is a much much higher quality filter
19. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #19 22nd December 2008, 14:21

    Sure it comes with the fixtures to fit it to the front panel, where as the raceland doesn't
20. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #20 22nd December 2008, 14:21

    The fitment on the raceland is pretty shit iirc. The holes never line up...
21. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #21 22nd December 2008, 14:24

    Just flogged mine Dan
22. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #22 22nd December 2008, 14:25

    my green came with holes to fit it to were the standard air box bolts to slam panel but tbh it sat too low and was resting on the radiator, even though it says direct fitment all aftermarket parts are just about universal, always require some tinkering, my funnel has started to crack, butthats my fault for leaning on it when doing my pas pipes
23. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #23 22nd December 2008, 14:26

    I've always been under the impression the cda is the best? Or one of them anyway for the price.
24. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #24 22nd December 2008, 14:30

    Wanna be different Yo Dan r Yo
    
    Everyone has the BMC innit
25. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #25 22nd December 2008, 14:33

    There's a reason though Bro. Tried and tested is always good. Why not be different and get an ebay electric supercharger iiiiiight.
26. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #26 22nd December 2008, 14:36

    I saw a 106 owner with one Dan on Friday night
    
    Awesome bit of kit
    
    Even had a dump valve on a vacuum pump..
    
    Best mods I have ever seen lol
    
    Agreed Dan but there are other decent filters out there
27. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #27 22nd December 2008, 14:38

    Do ITG do one for a saxo?
28. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #28 22nd December 2008, 14:39

    Yep £385 for the carbon one feck that!!1
29. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #29 22nd December 2008, 14:40

    Ah fair enough, they get good results on the 206.
    
    Do they make a big difference over standard?
30. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #30 22nd December 2008, 14:41

    Review on the ITG was awesome
    
    But i know anyone who has one cos they were so expensive
31. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #31 22nd December 2008, 14:47

    itg if you want to be different lol
    
    get a loan out
32. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #32 22nd December 2008, 14:49

    Give over
    
    Buy me it for Xmas Pred
33. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #33 22nd December 2008, 15:06

    the k&n gen 2 is not fully enclosed bud.
    
    the green cotton enclosed is and takes the air direct from you slam panel/grill area.
    
    i loved the one i had on my vtr, made a canny difference with the 421 fannymold and the full magnex system
    
    i would go for the green cotton.
    
    or just get a pipercross panel filter and fit a direct air feed pipe to the standard box from the bottom of the engine bay/bumper.
    
    unless you are just wanting it for the noise lol
34. vtcarl Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 telford, shropshire Posts: 968 E86 Z4 3.0 si coupe

    #34 22nd December 2008, 15:14

    the green kit is good, but a little fragile. have had to repair mine twice now but it's bloody good and the sound is great.
35. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #35 22nd December 2008, 15:17

    i think they all crack and are a bit fragile after a while.
    
    procomp all the way
36. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #36 22nd December 2008, 15:17

    Noise Boz
    
    Gen2 Made a massive difference on manic's old car
37. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #37 22nd December 2008, 15:20

    i dont think they are worth the cash
    
    just do the old air box thing and drill some holes in it, v6 growl ftw
38. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #38 22nd December 2008, 15:22

    Na have standard box in now its shit
    
    Trying to find 2nd procomp these days is like finding hens teeth!
39. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #39 22nd December 2008, 16:32

    i have a box of hens teeth mate, got them when i was in asia
40. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #40 22nd December 2008, 16:33

    Find me a procomp
41. Aly Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2007 Sunderland Posts: 10341

    #41 22nd December 2008, 16:42

    I love mine:
    
    
42. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #42 22nd December 2008, 16:59

    i dont have any procomps lying about in the garage lol
43. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #43 22nd December 2008, 17:00

    I have got onto a contact on SSC....fingers crossed something comes up
44. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #44 22nd December 2008, 19:08

    Leeroy, for best performance, the choice has to be Ecosse. The shell is made from fibreglass, so it's got excellent heat reflection, it's light, and it comes with Samco hosing, not some poxy thin piece of metal... I've also wrapped mine with insulation stuff - It stays cold.
45. VtsTom Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 Spalding-ish Posts: 2512 Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye

    #45 22nd December 2008, 19:42

    Didnt CiTuning do them pretty cheap? A buddy of mine got an ex demo one (sat in a glass case for a couple of months) for £90, billy bargain. Shame their customer service sucks donkey kongs gentleman vegitable
46. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #46 22nd December 2008, 19:46

    ohhh might look into it
    
    I had the ecosse on the gti i have......only probs is it has it write on it in massive letters and it was a piprcross foam filter back in those days
47. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #47 22nd December 2008, 19:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VtsTom Didnt CiTuning do them pretty cheap? A buddy of mine got an ex demo one (sat in a glass case for a couple of months) for £90, billy bargain. Shame their customer service sucks donkey kongs gentleman vegitable

    lmfao at the donkey kong bit lol
48. Andy_OZ Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Jersey Posts: 222 Saxo VTR 2003

    #48 22nd December 2008, 20:54

    jesus its only an air filter! just get a raceland/green from Kam and move on
49. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #49 22nd December 2008, 20:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andy_OZ jesus its only an air filter! just get a raceland/green from Kam and move on

    couldnt agree more, its jsut an air filter whats the point in spending hundreds when teh gains will only be minimal, am not saying grab the first no named filter you can buy, get an alright one and spend the change on something else...
50. wrighty89 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 Washington Posts: 1232 MK5 Ibiza Cupra

    #50 22nd December 2008, 23:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeroybrown I saw a 106 owner with one Dan on Friday night Awesome bit of kit Even had a dump valve on a vacuum pump.. Best mods I have ever seen lol Agreed Dan but there are other decent filters out there

    Recess' red gti?
    i would go for the K&N gen 2, looks mint and chris from manic motors has shown me the ones he had in his old demo car, fits amazing.
    not a fan of the bmc, failing that an itg or procomp would be nice but pricey.
    and concerning the raceland one, id rather push my car then have the engine running with that piece of crap on.