1400 block with 16v head?

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Chippenham Posts: 828 E36 330i coupe (converted)
    #1
    Hi would this work?

    would i need different internals etc?

    Ive had a search but no luck

    Thank you
  2. Established Member Joined: Feb 2004 southampton United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1881 Super stripped VTS transit camper iveco work hor
    #2
    the short answer is no

    it has been one on race cars to meet regs for class but its alot of work, way more than is worth it for road usage.
  3. Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye
    #3
    there was a 1.4vts in other countries.

    think on the later 1.4 engines the 16v fitted not o sure.
  4. Established Member Joined: Feb 2004 southampton United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1881 Super stripped VTS transit camper iveco work hor
    #4
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by frankie View Post
    there was a 1.4vts in other countries.
    it was a 1360cc vts, but it wasnt a 16v
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Chippenham Posts: 828 E36 330i coupe (converted)
    #5
    Sorry forgot to mention its not for road usage which would be easier, a full 16v conversion or just swap the heads?
  6. Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye
    #6
    oh rite....

    anyway, james if youve got a 16v head ive got a vts bottom end
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 Spalding-ish Posts: 2512 Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye
    #7
    Pop over to qep and bend over with a tub of lube, or hand them 6k... Your choice
  8. Established Member Joined: Feb 2004 southampton United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1881 Super stripped VTS transit camper iveco work hor
    #8
    whole engine mate. swap it, you wont look back
  9. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #9
    Cant just swap the heads, sandy did a 1.4 16v on bodies in a 205. His thread commented on how if it wasnt for class regs it was uneconomical iirc.

    just use the 1600
  10. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Chippenham Posts: 828 E36 330i coupe (converted)
    #10
    Okay thanks for the advice haha think ill stick to the whole 16v unit then. Frankie ill probally be in touch soon when i break everything and i need help haha me n my old man are going to give it a shot, oh and do you know of any scrapies near us frankie? ive been to 3 in devies's and 1 in trowbo no luck
  11. Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye
    #11
    you looking for the vts engine loom and whole she bang?
  12. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Chippenham Posts: 828 E36 330i coupe (converted)
    #12
    Pretty much from the bulkhead to the slam panels worth, driveshafts the lot
  13. Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye
    #13
    i could be breaking my vts, so i would sell you the whole lot....

    everything for the conversion....

    your sax best be single plug?
  14. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Chippenham Posts: 828 E36 330i coupe (converted)
    #14
    oh aye! how much we looking at?
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 Notts Posts: 6227 White pug 106 1.6
    #15
    ide say a good 5 grand amtes rates
  16. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Chippenham Posts: 828 E36 330i coupe (converted)
    #16
    replace grand with pounds
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 Notts Posts: 6227 White pug 106 1.6
    #17
    dont push it
  18. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Chippenham Posts: 828 E36 330i coupe (converted)
    #18
    6 pounds? haha
  19. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 Notts Posts: 6227 White pug 106 1.6
    #19
    anyone up for a 1400 engine off willsy i offerd him £20 as a joke for his engine ecu ect and he accepted it, i was like urm shit i was joking, hes seirously sellign the lot for 20 quid tho!
  20. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Chippenham Posts: 828 E36 330i coupe (converted)
    #20
    sounds like its not the freshest tho . .
  21. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6
    #21
    Get a 1600 vts engine and change the bore/stroke with a different crank, rods etc. Only way really, and its only for class racing really. Pointless for the road etc.
  22. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2003 Ireland (Republic of) Posts: 208
    #22
    1600 engine with S1 rallye crank. if stuck to regulations like said. would probably be the easiest route.
  23. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by furio-james View Post
    Hi would this work?

    would i need different internals etc?

    Ive had a search but no luck

    Thank you
    Yes you can. You have to use a iron block 8 1.4 You need to fit the tensioner setup off the 16V engine and hen the pistons can easily be rebated to clear the 16 valves. You can use the full management system off the 16V but it would have to be mapped or you can just go stand alone.

    As for using 1.3 crank in a 16V block this is a lot more complicated and actually takes you over 1.4 if you retain the stock stroke and bore.
  24. Established Member Joined: May 2007 Near Inverurie (kind of...) Posts: 2303 Twingo Silverstone
    #24
    theres a 1.4 16v up here, my mate owns it, class winning car although alot of cash like. Think it's got a sadev and all that