Bypassing EBD And Using Mk1 Brake Bias Valve

1. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #1 25th December 2008, 14:17

   Can it be done, as the mk2 use a EBD and dont have the rear bias valve.
   What would need to be done to stick one on?
   
   Dont really want to change my master cylinder again, but need a bit more braking on the rear.
   
   Sure alexr done it.
2. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #2 29th December 2008, 10:55

   lol, your a fuck nut haha, why would you need to change MC to use an aftermarket bias valve? you need it on some brake rollers to decide how much rear braking you need imo.
3. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #3 29th December 2008, 11:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by williamsvts lol, your a fuck nut haha, why would you need to change MC to use an aftermarket bias valve? you need it on some brake rollers to decide how much rear braking you need imo.

   as i have the 2 outlets and would need the 4 when ditching abs you nob.
4. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #4 29th December 2008, 11:55

   I'm just going to get my ABS completely removed. It's on the piss as it is... I'm not sure how the bias will be dealt with though.
5. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #5 29th December 2008, 13:13

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Toad I'm just going to get my ABS completely removed. It's on the piss as it is... I'm not sure how the bias will be dealt with though.

   get a bias valve
6. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #6 29th December 2008, 13:19

   I might not need one...
7. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #7 29th December 2008, 13:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Toad I might not need one...

   you got a mk1 rear axel?
8. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #8 29th December 2008, 13:28

   No, mk2.
9. dan-dan Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Nottinghamshire Posts: 334 Saxo VTR W-reg Escort RS turbo with about 160bhp

   #9 29th December 2008, 21:18

   you will probably need a bias valve, if you brake really heavy it will lock the rear first because of the lack of weight on the rear. if this happens you will start to slide and could crash. mine does it on my vtr but thats the because the valve isnt setup properly
10. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #10 29th December 2008, 21:19

    ^^ missing the point i want more braking on the rear.
11. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #11 30th December 2008, 10:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS as i have the 2 outlets and would need the 4 when ditching abs you nob.

    you wouldnt, if you listend to what me and boz were talking about when i got my MC you can t piece the 2 outlets to make 4
12. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #12 30th December 2008, 10:17

    Anyone got any idea what would happen if I took out all the ABS equipment?
13. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #13 30th December 2008, 10:19

    and done nothing else? you need to fit all new brake lines. im removing mine and the EBD and fitting a bias valve instead.
14. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #14 30th December 2008, 10:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts and done nothing else? you need to fit all new brake lines. im removing mine and the EBD and fitting a bias valve instead.

    I was speaking to a garage who said they would happily do the work for me. They said they would have to do some other work, i.e., with the lines and what have you, but we never discussed a bias valve. I'm wondering what would happen with this, if all the electrical parts to the ABS were removed.
15. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #15 30th December 2008, 10:27

    if you had no rear bias control then your car would be written off in a hedge very quickly imo, is yours 3 plug? the garage may not know that the 3 plugs dont use a mechanical load compensator.
16. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #16 30th December 2008, 10:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts if you had no rear bias control then your car would be written off in a hedge very quickly imo, is yours 3 plug? the garage may not know that the 3 plugs dont use a mechanical load compensator.

    Tis a 3 plug. So any idea what would happen if all the ABS equipment was taken out? They do know that it has EBD, as we were test driving it and discussing for ages why the car wasn't braking correctly. As we couldn't adjust the rear braking, we discussed removing all the ABS parts... So I will need a bias valve installed for sure then?
17. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #17 30th December 2008, 10:49

    yep, not in future, as so as you do it as you will need to set the rear bias.