Just curious, what power do you think my vts is running?

  1. Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR
    #1
    I've never been in another vts neither have my friends but mine just pulls like a total train specially in 2nd/3rd/4th gears. was just wondering roughly how much power do you guys think i'm running?

    Current mod's are full serviced with new sparks, oil,filters etc, power flow cat back system straight pipe no mid silencers and race land enclosed induction system. I personally would say between 130-135? but not sure.
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2007 Accrington (BB5 Area) Posts: 3036 Black Throttlebodied VTS
    #2
    130 m8 barely get 145 - 150 with ph3 cams or 708's m8 n a re map
  3. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #3
    160 bhp + easy, or you could put it on some rollers to get a real idea thats not a guess.
  4. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #4
    43hp

    could have some dodgy sensors making it have less power
  5. Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953
    #5
    about 127.2 bhp at the most...
  6. Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by -Saxo_VTS- View Post
    130 m8 barely get 145 - 150 with ph3 cams or 708's m8 n a re map
    Yeah i was thinking about there, i wasn't expecting it to be high.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    160 bhp + easy, or you could put it on some rollers to get a real idea thats not a guess.
    160 bph cool! haha

    Yeah i've been thinking about putting it on some rollers just i don't want to be dissapointed with like a 115 bph figure but im sure this isnt the case!
  7. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #7
    ryan you make me laugh
  8. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 blandiago Posts: 4483 Hondaaaa
    #8
    about 130 but its not unheard of for them to make 135 on that sort of set up
  9. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    ryan you make me laugh
    thats a shit chat up line.
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 blandiago Posts: 4483 Hondaaaa
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    thats a shit chat up line.
    what would be an appropriate one ryan?
  11. Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 nottingham Posts: 1250 2003 citroen saxo vts.
    #11
    I have the same on mine including a sports cat and a 4-1 manifold, any guess on what mine runs?
  12. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS
    #12
    Probs about 124Bhp max. Don't get carried away with rubbish like 'I got 139Bhp with just a Raceland' etc.

    If it's over stock power and pulls well then happy days!
  13. Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Torbay Posts: 1565 2000 phase 2 Saxo VTS Turbo 2000 Nissan 200sx S14a
    #13
    doesn't matter what the printout says, its how the car performs that matters to me.

    but seriously, you'll be on pretty much standard power.
  14. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 Skopje Posts: 215 Citroen Saxo 1.6-16V VTS
    #14
    I think between 125-130bhp max.
  15. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    thats a shit chat up line.
    do you come here often?
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Mansfield Posts: 6663 Astra Coupe Edition 100
    #16
    You're best off going on a RR. Seriously, you cannot guess these things really. Some engines are healthier than others and so run better power. I remember my mates 106GTI, cant remember what power it was running, but all he had was a manifold, pugsport and ind kit and it had daft amounts of power compared to some. And it was sticking with Scoobys at Santa Pod and thrapsing Civic TypeR's (several times as the guy in the TR refused to be beaten).
  17. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ant809099 View Post
    I've never been in another vts neither have my friends but mine just pulls like a total train specially in 2nd/3rd/4th gears. was just wondering roughly how much power do you guys think i'm running?

    Current mod's are full serviced with new sparks, oil,filters etc, power flow cat back system straight pipe no mid silencers and race land enclosed induction system. I personally would say between 130-135? but not sure.
    i would personally say 124 if your lucky.
    But seen as though it pulls like a train it could be 125.

    Let me have a go of your car and i will tell you what it drives like.
  18. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by -Saxo_VTS- View Post
    130 m8 barely get 145 - 150 with ph3 cams or 708's m8 n a re map
    barely?
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ant809099 View Post
    Yeah i was thinking about there, i wasn't expecting it to be high.



    160 bph cool! haha

    Yeah i've been thinking about putting it on some rollers just i don't want to be dissapointed with like a 115 bph figure but im sure this isnt the case!
    so would rather guess a stupid number to make your self feel happy?
    if the cars running smooth and feels healthy, thats all that matters imo
    oh and of course your not getting beat by 8v's in straight lines
  20. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #20
    to add ive seen (it was mine ffs) a vts run 112 at flywheel with a bmc induction supersprint decat and piper backbox


    it drove quite reasonably (i thought) but obv wasnt right
    a new stepper motor and a service later it was ok
  21. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932
    #21
    pretty much standard power tbh. as a rough guide depending on how well your engine has been looked after and how many miles you have done, how often its been serviced etc..... but you will probably be getting-
    - approx- 130hp - 135hp with all breathing mods (including de cat)
    - approx- 145-150 hp with fast road cams (ph3s or 708s) un mapped
    - approx-150-155hp with fast road cams and a map of the ecu
    - approx-155-160 ish with fast road cams a re map and head work (skimmed port and polish and tested)
  22. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gouldy87 View Post
    pretty much standard power tbh. as a rough guide depending on how well your engine has been looked after and how many miles you have done, how often its been serviced etc..... but you will probably be getting-
    - approx- 130hp - 135hp with all breathing mods (including de cat)
    - approx- 145-150 hp with fast road cams (ph3s or 708s) un mapped
    - approx-150-155hp with fast road cams and a map of the ecu
    - approx-155-160 ish with fast road cams a re map and head work (skimmed port and polish and tested)
    a very rough guide lol
    some mapped cat cam 708s make under 150 some make nearer 160 depends who does it and the rollers.
  23. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #23
    i need to read before i post ignore me
  24. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932
    #24
    yea obviousley it it not an exact guide, andy widds vts made something like 168hp with just breathing mods on well lane turbos rollers (miles out) where as after the car had been cammed it made 157.4hp on chip wizards rollers, so yea its not an exact measure but its not far off. alot of the times it is the rollers that are out
  25. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gouldy87 View Post
    yea obviousley it it not an exact guide, andy widds vts made something like 168hp with just breathing mods on well lane turbos rollers (miles out) where as after the car had been cammed it made 157.4hp on chip wizards rollers, so yea its not an exact measure but its not far off. alot of the times it is the rollers that are out
    i wasnt taken the piss out of you btw.

    168? fpmsl andy hadnt even had a remap just a chip to raise the limiter iirc
  26. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932
    #26
    i no mate its mad how far different sets of rollers can be out! madness! i might put my car on well lanes rollers for a laugh!
  27. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV
    #27
    rolling road read out mean jack shit imo, its all just forum banter and pub ammo. lol

    if your car drives well, then who cares??

    yes, its nice to know that your car kicks out 'X' amount of bhp and torque.
    i can defo see the point of the rr sessions, to set up the car to its optimum for the mods it has etc.

    i really think i would do a RR session and not ask for the print out, as long as i was happy with the person setting up the car etc.

    they need calibrating on a regular basis, by a competant person.
    i have seen and heard so many, my car has this and that stories.

    its all down to the way the car drives and responds to the mods you have.

    thats just my opinion
  28. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV
    #28
    i have seen standard vts's getting 135+bhp on the mobile RR at track days and car shows.

    come on, would you really trust a pikey with a mobile RR?
    it wouldnt be something i would brag about.

    if i had it done at a reputable place, then a may brag about it, but i cant see the point lol
  29. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV
    #29
    easy car / engine is different.
    different condition, mileage, etc. some could have been be fitted with items of a different tolerance etc.

    its hard to say what each car will get with the same mods.
    then you have the setting up of the car, im sure each tuner has his own way and ideas on how to program and setup a car on the rollers.
    things like the calibration of the rollers and even the weather on the day of the RR session can have an effect on read outs.

    we all know how bad LAD sydrome can be lol
    im sure a standard vts with just an air filter on will get a read out of 140bhp on their rollers
  30. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 devon United Kingdom (England) Posts: 214 Saxo VTR/VTS Hybrid
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ant809099 View Post
    I've never been in another vts neither have my friends but mine just pulls like a total train specially in 2nd/3rd/4th gears. was just wondering roughly how much power do you guys think i'm running?

    Current mod's are full serviced with new sparks, oil,filters etc, power flow cat back system straight pipe no mid silencers and race land enclosed induction system. I personally would say between 130-135? but not sure.
    Anymore info on the train its being compared to??.