Angel eyes and HID's.

1. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

   #1 31st December 2008, 10:21

   What part of the angel eyes actually melts from HID's.
   
   Is it the halo rings taht melt?
   
   Could you take the halo rings off, and then fit an HID kit?
   
   Cause then it would be legal as they are projector, and i think HID's look mint in projector headlights.
2. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #2 31st December 2008, 11:25

   If they are E marked for HID and in so only take HID bulbs for example only take D2 bulbs then yes the headlight it self would be legal. All the codes match up at least of the police would take a look. However if it takes a halogen bulb such as a H1, H4 or kin then no it would be illegal.
   
   35W and over HIDs also all require auto levelling and washer systems. Though I am positive there is a way to bend the law a bit on these two.
3. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

   #3 31st December 2008, 11:32

   ooh. will stick with just getting angels then lol
4. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #4 31st December 2008, 11:58

   plus its the actual rflector domes that melt inside the light
   
   the rins crack i think
5. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

   #5 31st December 2008, 12:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alex-VTS plus its the actual rflector domes that melt inside the light the rins crack i think

   ahh ok mate
6. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #6 31st December 2008, 12:11

   basically its a bad idea lol
   
   if they had metal domes or bigger domes youd be ok
   
   its like morrettes have metal domes so being closer in makes no difference with the heat
   
   still illegal though
7. liam46 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Camberley, Surrey Posts: 640 Black FURIO (52)

   #7 2nd January 2009, 22:38

   Mate. I think ive told you already, i melted a set of angel eyes with my HID's LOL.
   
   The ring around the projector actually melted and the lens started to crack!
   I also tried putting an original lens on the angels but it doesn't fit
   If you do get angels, the ultra bulbs are best to get, thats what i got in the end.
   
   
   
   
   Pics of the Ultra Bulbs in the angels
8. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

   #8 2nd January 2009, 23:39

   yehh, they aint as good as HID's but spoe the best im gunna get. look so good. but cant afford at the moment.
   everyone moans how dim angels are, are they dim only with standard bulbs in or with ultra xenon as well?
   were yours brighter or dimmer than standard lights?
9. Noddy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4121 Mk2 Posi Blue 1.1

   #9 2nd January 2009, 23:43

   liam have you got a link for the ultra bulbs at all? I've got the xenon main beam bulbs but the others are still standard
10. VTR-Chris Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Deeside Posts: 2514 Focus RS 400BHP

    #10 2nd January 2009, 23:59

    ive got the ultra HIDs in mine aswell
    
    
11. hudson701 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Port Talbot Posts: 279 Citroen Saxo VTS MK2. Lotus Elise Series 2

    #11 3rd January 2009, 00:17

    I love the look of the angels on my car but the current light they put out is pants lol.
    
    Are there any bulbs I could buy which fit directly into the angel eyes and put out a nice bright, crisp white/blue light? Some of the HID kits I've seen on cars round my place light half a street up lol and look amazingly bright...
12. R555GED L-plater Joined: Feb 2008 Co. Armagh Posts: 35 Saxo VTS

    #12 3rd January 2009, 02:20

    Ive HID's in mine now for 6 months no problems, I always make sure the lense is clean though, Once they get dirt on them they then heat up and start traping the heat inside causing the melting! washer kit!
13. saxoboy2005 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Dalget Bay, Fife United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 648 MAZDA 6: Slammed, 18's, Tints, Smoothed

    #13 3rd January 2009, 08:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTR-Chris ive got the ultra HIDs in mine aswell

    where did you get your hids and angel eyes from mate?
    
    do you have a link?
    
    cheers
14. liam46 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Camberley, Surrey Posts: 640 Black FURIO (52)

    #14 3rd January 2009, 12:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NICK2506 yehh, they aint as good as HID's but spoe the best im gunna get. look so good. but cant afford at the moment. everyone moans how dim angels are, are they dim only with standard bulbs in or with ultra xenon as well? were yours brighter or dimmer than standard lights?

    Yeah with standard bulbs they were SHITE! Bit better with these Ultra Bulbs until i got them pointing the right places. My dad put it on the light leveling thingy they use for MOT's and they were shocking. Had them adjusted to the extreme legal limit and lit the road up perfectly.
    
    And www.speedbox.co.uk is the only place i could find these Ultra bulbs atm on the tinternet, however i just got them in ASH VALE @ Edge-Performance. If you give them a ring, and say that someone recommended these bulbs i expect they will post them out to you. Best bulbs halogen bulbs i have had in any of my cars.
15. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #15 3rd January 2009, 12:44

    liam, the ultra bulbs you had, are they the ultra xenon upgrade that you can get with angels. or are they even more advance??
16. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #16 3rd January 2009, 12:46

    look at this link:
    
    http://www.rimstyle.com/pages/produc...L25S;model=730
    
    are the bulbs you had the upgrade you can select on this website?
17. Noddy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4121 Mk2 Posi Blue 1.1

    #17 3rd January 2009, 13:12

    yeah I'm wondering that, the xeonon upgrade that you can get at rimstyle is for the main beam bulbs, I can't seem to find the xenon option for the dipped beam anywhere!
18. sanchez89 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Walsall Posts: 343 03 Black VTR

    #18 3rd January 2009, 16:03

    i had the ultra xenon bulbs add-on when i bought my angels. they look spot on but were so shit. you could hardly see anything. the normal yellow coloured bulbs are better but still weak. i emailed ultra and they said in so many words yes you can put HID's in angels, but if you do then kiss goodbye to your warranty. and they said only put the ultra VDX (virtual daylight xenon) kit in there.
19. sanchez89 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Walsall Posts: 343 03 Black VTR

    #19 3rd January 2009, 16:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTR-Chris ive got the ultra HIDs in mine aswell

    can i ask how you wired up your HID's mate??
20. liam46 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2007 Camberley, Surrey Posts: 640 Black FURIO (52)

    #20 3rd January 2009, 19:57

    The virtual daylight kit is good unless you wanna go all out HID like a 8000k kit coz the virtual daylight comes up at just under 6000k if i remember from looking at them a while back.
    
    I still suggest not putting HID's in angels through my experience!
21. VTR-Chris Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Deeside Posts: 2514 Focus RS 400BHP

    #21 3rd January 2009, 20:43

    sorry m8 no link for the angels i bought them off "biteme" off here about 6 months ago
    
    the HID's ive got are the ultra virtual daylight kit, and theyre 8000k
    
    cost me £140 from demon tweeks
    
    on speedbox ther £284!!?! wtf http://www.speedbox.co.uk/products/p...pe=ultra_bulbs
22. VTR-Chris Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Deeside Posts: 2514 Focus RS 400BHP

    #22 3rd January 2009, 20:47

    http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/produc...de=ULT95VDXKIT
23. saxoboy2005 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2006 Dalget Bay, Fife United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 648 MAZDA 6: Slammed, 18's, Tints, Smoothed

    #23 4th January 2009, 06:57

    cheers mate for the link!
24. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #24 4th January 2009, 08:10

    http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?p=BU448P&a=i
    
    They wouldn't be the Ultra bulbs you're talking about would they? Had em in my angel eyes, were better than standard by a long shot, lit signs upa lot better.
25. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #25 4th January 2009, 09:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by titchster http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?p=BU448P&a=i They wouldn't be the Ultra bulbs you're talking about would they? Had em in my angel eyes, were better than standard by a long shot, lit signs upa lot better.

    do they look blue/white xenoney or not?
26. sanchez89 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Walsall Posts: 343 03 Black VTR

    #26 4th January 2009, 12:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NICK2506 do they look blue/white xenoney or not?

    yes mate they do. but they really are bad.
27. sanchez89 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Walsall Posts: 343 03 Black VTR

    #27 4th January 2009, 12:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTR-Chris sorry m8 no link for the angels i bought them off "biteme" off here about 6 months ago the HID's ive got are the ultra virtual daylight kit, and theyre 8000k cost me £140 from demon tweeks on speedbox ther £284!!?! wtf http://www.speedbox.co.uk/products/p...pe=ultra_bulbs

    did you have any problems installing them matey?