Difference In Mk1 / Mk2 VTS Fuel Pumps?

  1. Newbie Joined: Dec 2008 Blackpool, Lancashire Posts: 8 1995 Mk2 Citroen Ax Forte VTS
    #1
    Hi all, just joined the forum.

    Ive got a Citroen Ax, which ive just finished a VTS conversion on.
    Its running fine on the standard ax pump, but i was going to fit a VTS pump anyway since im wiring in some Mk2 Saxo VTS clocks.

    The question is:
    Is there any physical difference in the mk1 VTS and the mk2 VTS fuel pumps?
    I know the Mk2 has different sender values for the fuel gauge, but do they physically look the same?

    Does anyone have any part numbers?

    I have two VTS pumps, which i thought one was mk1 the other mk2. But im not so sure. Just wanted to work out what they were before fitting them.

    Thanks
  2. Newbie Joined: Dec 2008 Blackpool, Lancashire Posts: 8 1995 Mk2 Citroen Ax Forte VTS
    #2
    Just to add more info....
    The pumps look like this:


    Each pump has a coloured plaque, on which the part number is moulded.
    Apart from the number moulded on the top of the pump, there is no physical difference between the two pumps.
    But i know the sender values are different. The one pictured has a grey plaque.

    I have the following part numbers from each pump:
    Part number moulded on green plaque
    96 318 838 80
    230/4/3

    Part number moulded on grey plaque
    96 375 136 80
    230/4/5
  3. West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
    #3
    On the Citroen parts website i have input the search for the fuel pump based on my MK1 VTS chassis number.

    There are however 4 different part numbers.

    The following is the detail list, ive highlighted the part numbers for you


    1525 E1
    01 GAUGE WITH PUMP
    - INJECTION TU1M+ SINCE RPO No. 07329 UNTIL RPO No. 08352
    01 - INJECTION TU9M SINCE RPO No. 07329 UNTIL RPO No. 08352
    1525 H5
    01 - INJECTION TU9M SINCE RPO No. 08353
    01 - INJECTION TU1M+ SINCE RPO No. 08353
    1525 87
    01 - INJECTION TU3JP SINCE RPO No. 07329 UNTIL RPO No. 08339
    01 - TU5 JP INJECTION 90 HP UNTIL RPO No. 08339
    01 - INJECTION TU5J4 SINCE RPO No. 07329 UNTIL RPO No. 08339
    1525 H6
    01 - INJECTION TU3JP SINCE RPO No. 08340
    01 - TU5 JP INJECTION 90 HP SINCE RPO No. 08340
    01 - INJECTION TU5J4 SINCE RPO No. 08340
  4. West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
    #4
    If anyone reading this has a MK2 VTS and doesnt mind posting up their chassis number i can input that and see what part numbers come up for the MK2 to compare
  5. Newbie Joined: Dec 2008 Blackpool, Lancashire Posts: 8 1995 Mk2 Citroen Ax Forte VTS
    #5
    Thanks wilsy.
    I have those part numbers, but the format seems different to the number printed on the pump itself:

    96 318 838 80

    So im still non the wiser?
  6. West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
    #6
    The number you have beginning with the 96 is an AX part number. Saxo ones are usually only 6 digits taking a **** ** appearance with the 5th digit occasionally being a letter rather than a number.

    I can check out any citroen part numbers so if theres anything else which you need let me know and ill find it out for you. Can also see the price too which is handy
  7. Newbie Joined: Dec 2008 Blackpool, Lancashire Posts: 8 1995 Mk2 Citroen Ax Forte VTS
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willsy View Post
    The number you have beginning with the 96 is an AX part number. Saxo ones are usually only 6 digits taking a **** ** appearance with the 5th digit occasionally being a letter rather than a number.

    I can check out any citroen part numbers so if theres anything else which you need let me know and ill find it out for you. Can also see the price too which is handy
    These pumps are definately from a saxo. The ax pump is different, and has a separate sender unit for the fuel gauge. I wonder the if the part number printed on the pump is the manufacturers number rather than the citroen part number?
  8. West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
    #8
    Quite possibly, although a long number like that with a 96 at the beginning is common with the AX ive just tried searching for both part numbers on the citroen website against both the AX parts list and all citroen items and its come back as an invalid part number

    Quite possibly then it is a number which isnt related to the Citroen parts themselves.
    hmm
  9. Newbie Joined: Dec 2008 Blackpool, Lancashire Posts: 8 1995 Mk2 Citroen Ax Forte VTS
    #9
    Is there any difference in physical appearance between the mk1 and mk2 VTS pumps?
  10. West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S
    #10
    To my knowledge they should be the same. Hope ive been a little help
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  11. Newbie Joined: Dec 2008 Blackpool, Lancashire Posts: 8 1995 Mk2 Citroen Ax Forte VTS
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willsy View Post
    To my knowledge they should be the same. Hope ive been a little help
    Yep, thanks for your quick replies and digging the part number out.
    Cheers

    Jas