performance testing ...

1. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

   #1 2nd January 2009, 16:54

   Ok had a couple of mods done & here are the very rough results in stages.
   
   Totally standard car
   
   0 - 60 std timed at 8.1
   
   30 to 70 through the gears timed at 7.95
   
   roads damp & cheapo from tires
   
   
   With raceland induction kit fitted red filter (seems to lose a bit of very top end power but adds good torque at 4000 rpm.)
   
   0 - 60 timed at 7.96
   
   30 to 70 timed at 7.76
   
   
   with raceland & a decat
   
   0 - 60 timed at 7.41
   
   30 to 70 timed at 7.0
   
   
   
   with raceland & decat , rear seats removed, spare wheel removed, parcel shelf out, car stripped of all the dynamat shite (6kg) that someone had done the boot floor out in, jack removed, brace out, boot floor board removed (4kg). so probably 30 kg's out of the car & a fairly empty tank of super.
   
   0 - 60 timed at 7.00
   
   30 to 70 timed at 6.13
   
   
   So it appears as the decat & weight reduction make the biggest difference.
   
   So next task reduce weight further.

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2. Peasnall Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2006 Lincoln Posts: 908 Wicked Red VTS

   #2 2nd January 2009, 17:01

   how did u time it?
3. ryhornvtr Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2005 norwich United Kingdom (England) Posts: 821 2003 posi VTS

   #3 2nd January 2009, 17:03

   Ill ask it first before someone else does.
   
   Is this a vts?
   
   How was this timed? Stopwatch or proper gear?
   
   30-70 in 2nd and 3rd or just 3rd?
4. ryhornvtr Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2005 norwich United Kingdom (England) Posts: 821 2003 posi VTS

   #4 2nd January 2009, 17:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Peasnall how did u time it?

   Damn you
5. Anthony Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR

   #5 2nd January 2009, 17:03

   Interesting.
   
   Tbh though i would have thought it would have made it more quicker than 1.1 seconds, but still that's quite an improvement if the timings been done correctly etc.
6. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

   #6 2nd January 2009, 17:08

   Timed using Race Technology timing gear, you can download all the result into a laptop.
   
   The car is a 1998 110,000 mile car VTS
   
   30 to 70 done in 2nd & with a change into 3rd at 7000 rpm.
   
   Quickshift gear linkage fitted for decat runs.
7. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #7 2nd January 2009, 17:57

   the 30 to 70 figure is pritty good gain, thats the most important part imo 0-60 is just pub talk
8. user_25465 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 5250 Pink Jazz

   #8 2nd January 2009, 18:04

   good thread
9. goodsum Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 Framlingham Posts: 21 Peugeot 106 GTi 1998

   #9 2nd January 2009, 20:59

   ...quickshift doesn't do nothing for performance. just less throwback
10. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #10 2nd January 2009, 21:01

    it will mean a faster shift so less time off the power though
    
    therefor better times
11. goodsum Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 Framlingham Posts: 21 Peugeot 106 GTi 1998

    #11 2nd January 2009, 21:03

    also stripping out the car makes more difference than any sensible mods u can make. at USC, i was talking to a guy in a standard 106 gti who had just stripped it out, and i was there in my 106 gti but cammed, mapped, decat, induction kit... the usual mods. but also had added weight from a custom boot build at the time, but running at 150 bhp. yet the standard gti made the 1/4 miles in 15 seconds, i done it is 16!
    
    so stripping your car shuda done a lot more difference than that
12. goodsum Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 Framlingham Posts: 21 Peugeot 106 GTi 1998

    #12 2nd January 2009, 21:05

    quickshift doesn't make a faster gear change at all... just less distance to change it, as far as the gearbox is concerned its the same. u can still change just as quick
13. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #13 2nd January 2009, 21:10

    less distance to go at same pushing speed will engage the gear faster
    decent linkages are the best thing ive done
    dont miss gears anymore
    
    agree about the stripping comments above aswell
    but some guys dont wanna strip there cars
14. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #14 2nd January 2009, 21:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by goodsum quickshift doesn't make a faster gear change at all... just less distance to change it, as far as the gearbox is concerned its the same. u can still change just as quick

    how not, just say for example, you need to move your gear nob 100mm, and i need to move mine 50mm, i will have shifted before you.
15. user_11402 Established Member Joined: Aug 2006 Bristol Posts: 2015 MK2 VTS

    #15 2nd January 2009, 21:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts how not, just say for example, you need to move your gear nob 100mm, and i need to move mine 50mm, i will have shifted before you.

    lol well said! nice thread mate, i would also of expected more of a gain though
16. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

    #16 2nd January 2009, 21:59

    Maybe my test results do not have a large sprinkling of bullshit thats why they are dissapointing.
    
    After owning many very exotic fast cars, I am truly impressed by the VTS.
    
    The runs it produced semi stripped was even to me impressive. The wheelspin when the throttle was cracked open in second was super, I am a true fan of the saxo.
    
    The saxo is like a go kart' I have a couple of nice cars at the moment, but the saxo is the most fun.
17. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

    #17 2nd January 2009, 22:02

    If youre wondering how much faster a lighter car really is, try this website
    
    http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp
    
    There calculations seems ok and 0-60 times for real world cars are pretty accurate.
18. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

    #18 2nd January 2009, 22:05

    cool results them... makes you think
19. Slammed_Posi_Vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2006 Royal Tunbridge Wells y0 Posts: 2602 Icelandic VTR

    #19 3rd January 2009, 12:33

    I think that 1.1 seconds off standard is a good gain for approximately £130! lol, thats a seventh of the origonal time off!
    
    Good thread
20. GallowayVTS Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 Barrow-in-Furness Posts: 163 Civic EK9 K24, S1 106 Rallye 1.3, BMW E30 325i 2dr

    #20 3rd January 2009, 12:55

    Weight reduction is the best because its free lol
21. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

    #21 18th February 2011, 21:54

    Just bumping this old thread :
    
    I have rerun the original tests, but have added a few extras since the first tests
    
    Roll cage +25 kg
    only 1 seat (drivers)
    light weight wheels & tyres 11.1 kg (per wheel & tyre)
    Catcam 708's & remap
    Saxsport
    Ashley competiotion 4-2-1
    modified Raceland with wolfrace big filter , modified slam panel
    
    147 bhp
    
    Rev limit 7400 rpm
    0 - 60 timed at 6.71 (with wheelspin)
    30 to 70 timed at 5.70
    
    will add throttle bodies for next test