Eagle F1 v Toyo v Yokohama

1. Arr0nUK Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 408

   #1 4th January 2009, 16:23

   Right getting some new tyers 195/45R15.
   Im stuck between 3 makes.
   Looking for good grip.
   
   -Yokohama
   -Toyo
   -Goodyear Eagle F1's
   
   Whats you opinion/past experiences?
   Poll as well if you wish to vote.
   
   Thanks
2. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

   #2 4th January 2009, 16:29

   i use toyo r888s on track and well yes they are very very grippy, running them on road at moment and not too bad
   
   usual road tyres are yoko 539s, at first i didnt rate them that much, but after a few laps on the ring it certainly changed my mind, a very good tyre
3. coffs_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 190

   #3 4th January 2009, 16:38

   i have toyo proxes and can reccomend them they are amazing although it has still not rained since iv had them on the car
4. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

   #4 4th January 2009, 16:43

   i have been told that toyo arent as good as yokohamas
   
   i used to have A539s on my car for track and road use. never had a problem with them, an they lasted for about 2 years!
   
   i am using S Drives now on the front and they seem good soo far on the road.
   
   you cant get the A539 from yokohama anymore as they have been discontinued, the replacement is the S Drive
5. markl Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 105 30th AE civic type R

   #5 4th January 2009, 16:45

   i used A539's in past on my old mini and i never had a problem with them rated them pretty good tbh. used yoko parada spec 2's for past year or so on other cars and cant rate them highly enough in the dry and not that bad (compared to wha people say) in the wet. so yoko's definately recomended from me.
6. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #6 4th January 2009, 16:51

   Yokos in the dry only, toyos are the best all rounder on same standard in the dry. Eagle f1's are also good however for value for money id go with toyo.
7. VTRcraig Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 coventry Posts: 275 black and silver race car vtr, many saxo projects

   #7 4th January 2009, 16:58

   in stock hatch we used to use a359's, when they got discontinued we moved on to c-drive/s-drive, finding out they were shit, we now are moving to yoko A048r's and they are much better and we use them in all weather conditions, the a539's and c/s drives are a bit better in the dry, but all round the a048's are a good tyre.
8. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

   #8 4th January 2009, 17:04

   people slate the 539 in the wet, but theres nothing wrong with them really. my car isnt in a ditch.... and i didnt fly off on croft, so theyre fine in the wet!
9. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

   #9 4th January 2009, 17:06

   i have s drives on my vts, seem to br a good tyre. i was thinking of trying some toyos next time though
10. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

    #10 4th January 2009, 17:57

    I also run Yokohama's!
    
    A539's aswell!
11. jdizzy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2008 Telford, Shropshire Posts: 6563 Fabia VRs

    #11 4th January 2009, 18:04

    toyo proxies!
12. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

    #12 4th January 2009, 18:04

    I thought yoko a539s were alright in the wet, but had toyos fitted and there alot better than them, but best wet tyre ive used is the goodyear eagle f1!
    Dry running yoko all the way really, but they dont last long!
    Best all round imo is the toyo though!
13. dinga Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 not brazil,northern ireland Posts: 763 vts

    #13 4th January 2009, 19:58

    f1 gsd 3 fantastic grip in all conditions.downside is wear on the shoulders,even with an extra couple of psi in the fronts.
    are we talking road tyres ?
14. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #14 4th January 2009, 20:00

    Ive got the F1 GSD3s too, they're awesome, grips good even before theyre warm. The only thing other than the soft shoulders, which is a problem with most high performance road tyres anyway in fairness, is that on the limit they dont start to loose grip gently the grip just tends to snap out. Which could get messy if you get too ambitious. But I highly rate em. And theyre amazing in the wet
15. corsa_rob Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Birmingham Posts: 207 Corsa Sport 1.4 (dead) Saxo ph2 VTS

    #15 4th January 2009, 22:35

    i found toyo to be better in the wet than the yokos i used the have...the tread didnt expell the water good enough...although the yoko's were sticky as hell in the dry
16. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #16 4th January 2009, 22:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nick_106 Dry running yoko all the way really, but they dont last long!

    LMAO, yes they do
    
    mine have survived croft twice and the nurburgring and countless thousand miles over nearly two years..
    
    i would say thats good wear
17. Adum Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Southend, Essex Posts: 2568 Honda S2000

    #17 4th January 2009, 22:51

    I have had Eagle F1s on all my cars and highly rate them!
18. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #18 4th January 2009, 23:25

    Heard very good reviews on the Eagles but havnt tried them yet.
    
    Started off with Toyo's on mine which were brilliant in both the wet and the dry, never had a single twitch or remote problem and they didnt wear anywhere near as quick as people say.
    
    Then changed alloys and tried the Yoko 539s which seemed to be about the same in the dry HOWEVER i found them to be absolutely shocking in the wet, so shocking infact that i got the tyres changed back to proxies after 2 weeks worth of rain drove me mad.
19. benkelsall Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Europe Posts: 1611

    #19 4th January 2009, 23:29

    What toyo tyres do people recomend? T1-Rs ?
20. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #20 4th January 2009, 23:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by willsy Then changed alloys and tried the Yoko 539s which seemed to be about the same in the dry HOWEVER i found them to be absolutely shocking in the wet, so shocking infact that i got the tyres changed back to proxies after 2 weeks worth of rain drove me mad.

    what did you feel the problem was with them in the wet? really curious to know. lol
    
    maybe just driving too fast for the conditions?
21. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #21 4th January 2009, 23:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Viper what did you feel the problem was with them in the wet? really curious to know. lol maybe just driving too fast for the conditions?

    Perfectly capable and have enough driving experience to know what is sensible in different conditions.
    
    At a normal leisurely speed the Yoko's felt very twitchy and the car constantly felt 'uneasy'
    
    Driven on the same conditions with the Toyo's and even in icy/snowy conditions i have never yet to date had even a slight twitch with them in 3 years of Toyo use
22. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #22 4th January 2009, 23:50

    Toyos are decent but wont last as long as eagle f1s, got them on mine and there very very good tyres
23. user_11067 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Ashford kent Posts: 3161 PoP! bAnG! pOp! BaNg!

    #23 4th January 2009, 23:53

    i have had eagles and 539's and tbh hated the 539's.
    
    again as wilsy has said in the wet they dont seem to perform.
    
    
    the eagles have always seemed to have plenty of grip in all conditions, oppsed to the 539's which were good in the dry but seemed almost dangerous to me when it was slippy.
    
    i even swapped my vts wheels around so i could have the 539's on the set i was selling and bout some new f1's
24. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #24 4th January 2009, 23:53

    F1s > the rest for all round tyre.
25. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #25 4th January 2009, 23:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by davew again as wilsy has said in the wet they dont seem to perform. the 539's which were good in the dry but seemed almost dangerous to me when it was slippy.

    Didnt think id be the only one to think it.
26. jmwilliams Central South Joined: Jun 2008 Southampton Posts: 2874 Astra SXi CDTi

    #26 5th January 2009, 00:00

    I got Toyo T1 rear's and Pirelli Fron't (not sure which though)
27. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #27 5th January 2009, 00:01

    A539s are decent as you say in the dry, SaxMax are forced to use that tyre and I remember on rallyeregister they used to swear by them.
28. stoner75 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 Bristol Posts: 561 None

    #28 5th January 2009, 00:24

    ive voted toyos because ive had toyos on my vts ever since ive had it and ive had them changed once and i went for toyos again, theyve always proved very good to me, and the grip feels great to me
29. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #29 5th January 2009, 03:40

    I've got Yoko S Drives atm, and they dont grip for me at all, weren't too bad with a lot of heat in them on track, but on the road just cant get that much heat into em.
    
    Will be going with T1Rs next.
30. Nick_106 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 470 Ford Ranger Pick Up

    #30 5th January 2009, 11:45

    Its really between the eagles and the toyos basically for all rounder, yokos are only good for dry use, in the wet there quite scary!
31. peebee Established Member Joined: Jun 2004 Worcester United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2209 Saxo VTR MK2

    #31 5th January 2009, 22:54

    Toyo R888's for the win!
32. Jimmy-Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Suffolk Posts: 7551 N/A 200bhp+ per ton 106 gti

    #32 5th January 2009, 23:02

    what toyos are people mentioning?? t1-rs? r888s - these are in 50 profile tho ???
33. benkelsall Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Europe Posts: 1611

    #33 5th January 2009, 23:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jimmy-Boy what toyos are people mentioning?? t1-rs? r888s - these are in 50 profile tho ???

    T1-Rs are in 45 aswell.
34. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #34 5th January 2009, 23:18

    eagle f1s........................
35. Jimmy-Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Suffolk Posts: 7551 N/A 200bhp+ per ton 106 gti

    #35 5th January 2009, 23:22

    so its between toyo t1-rs goodyear eagle f1 and what yokohama? sorry but needs to be made a tad clearer
36. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #36 5th January 2009, 23:59

    Such a shame Toyo dropped the T1S tyre as Ive heard they are far superior over the T1R
    tyre and it seems a lot of you rate the R's.
37. legal_ice L-plater Joined: Aug 2008 Luton Posts: 60 SAXO VTR

    #37 7th January 2009, 10:08

    I've got toyo t1-s's all round and they are perfect in all conditions