I need a BTB in my life.

1. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #1 4th January 2009, 21:06

   but I don't want to decat my car...
   
   so is it possible just to get the backbox???
   
   cheerssss
2. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #2 4th January 2009, 21:10

   What you can do mate is the same as mine.
   
   Buy a full BTB exhaust.
   
   then get a standard cat with one end re-welded to the right diameter.
   
   this is what I have for MOT and run decatted normally.
3. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #3 4th January 2009, 21:10

   I'm being a spacker again... it is catted
   
   edit:
   
   so does the system have a cat with it or not man?
4. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

   #4 4th January 2009, 21:12

   Can you not just use the BTB centre section and backbox?
5. user_24886 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 Notts Posts: 6227 White pug 106 1.6

   #5 4th January 2009, 21:12

   is it the MK2 manifolds that have the cat built in ?, if so could you not use a mk2 manifold with the cat in and still use the BTB exhaust>
6. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #6 4th January 2009, 21:18

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by VTEC-Saxo is it the MK2 manifolds that have the cat built in ?, if so could you not use a mk2 manifold with the cat in and still use the BTB exhaust>

   on a vtr
   he has a vts
   
   so erm GTFO
7. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #7 4th January 2009, 21:18

   You want it for the looks or for performance?
8. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #8 4th January 2009, 21:20

   Ads, its a decat system.
   
   if you want a cat to fit you need to reweld a different end on the cat.
9. user_24886 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 Notts Posts: 6227 White pug 106 1.6

   #9 4th January 2009, 21:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alex-VTS on a vtr he has a vts so erm GTFO

   ahh i see sorry, i could learn alot from you alex
10. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #10 4th January 2009, 21:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 You want it for the looks or for performance?

    neither... for the noise
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 4th January 2009, 21:20

    BTB is a manifold back system with a silencer in place of the cat.
    
    You would need to cut the first box out and have a cat welded in its place.
    
    yates mk2
12. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #12 4th January 2009, 21:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTEC-Saxo ahh i see sorry, i could learn alot from you alex

    haha maybe
13. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #13 4th January 2009, 21:21

    and to find just the rear box you are going to be searching a long time mate
14. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #14 4th January 2009, 21:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan and to find just the rear box you are going to be searching a long time mate

    let the search commence....
15. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #15 4th January 2009, 21:26

    i sold my spare bent system years back sadly dude.
    
    its very rare people will sell off part of the system. Just get a second hand one thats been mangled slighty at the front (eg had front box cut out) for some reason people do this at times. Then get a cat welded in, well a quick release cat like on mine, then can swap them in 10mins.
16. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #16 4th January 2009, 21:27

    Piper exhaust systems are beasts for noise man, look into them instead. cheaper and can be bought easier.
17. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #17 4th January 2009, 21:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Karl Piper exhaust systems are beasts for noise man, look into them instead. cheaper and can be bought easier.

    That's what I have on mine, which is why I asked if it was for looks or performance. Looks pretty much identicle at a glance. Viper offered to buy my "BTB"
    
    If I were not so honest I would have sold it to him.
    
    Sayer:
    
    
    
    £120 cat back system, yours if you are interested. MINT condition
18. Ferg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4928 Clio 197 Cup

    #18 4th January 2009, 21:31

    I also need a BTB ... FACT.
19. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #19 4th January 2009, 21:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ferg I also need a BTB ... FACT.

    I need 180bhp ... FACT.
20. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #20 4th January 2009, 21:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 I need 180bhp ... FACT.

    I have 180 bhp FACT
21. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #21 4th January 2009, 21:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan I have 180 bhp FACT

    Arse ... FACT sell me your engine, it's wasted in your car
    
    
22. Cupra-Craig Established Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1979

    #22 4th January 2009, 21:38

    Now now boys!!!
23. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #23 4th January 2009, 21:40

    My car has a grille that looks like it was made from Wood....fact.
24. Ferg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4928 Clio 197 Cup

    #24 4th January 2009, 21:41

    My grill is a mixture of 346 shades of grey/black ... FACT.
25. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #25 4th January 2009, 21:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 Arse ... FACT sell me your engine, it's wasted in your car

    HAHA white writing.
    
    I dont get how its wasted with proper suspension, box, seats FACT
26. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #26 4th January 2009, 21:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan HAHA white writing. I dont get how its wasted with proper suspension, box, seats FACT

    Ok you win.....
27. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #27 4th January 2009, 21:51

    lol at the state of sayers thread.
    
    BOTEEBEEEEE
28. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #28 4th January 2009, 21:58

    adam, i think you should consult lee before you buy a BTB!
    
    IIRC, you're not allowed one until you have at least 150bhp
29. user_12092 Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS

    #29 4th January 2009, 21:59

    Another n00b question,
    
    Why are btb rated so highly whats so good about them as have never had nor been in a car with one on
30. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #30 4th January 2009, 22:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -Jason- Another n00b question, Why are btb rated so highly whats so good about them as have never had nor been in a car with one on

    The noise, it rapes.
31. Ferg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4928 Clio 197 Cup

    #31 4th January 2009, 22:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Karl The noise, it rapes your eardrums.

    This is true ...
32. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #32 4th January 2009, 22:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -Jason- Another n00b question, Why are btb rated so highly whats so good about them as have never had nor been in a car with one on

    noise, and general build quality.
33. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #33 4th January 2009, 22:05

    my thread! my beautiful thread!
    spammy bastards... FACT
    
    ummmm craig that backbox looks nice...
    
    does it sound crap though?
34. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #34 4th January 2009, 22:11

    probably does ads. most of his do
35. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #35 4th January 2009, 22:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer my thread! my beautiful thread! spammy bastards... FACT ummmm craig that backbox looks nice... does it sound crap though?

    It's quite "meaty". Don't like it myself, but that's down to the fact I'm driving a pretty much otherwise standard VTR
36. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #36 4th January 2009, 22:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Viper adam, i think you should consult lee before you buy a BTB! IIRC, you're not allowed one until you have at least 150bhp

    Correct why waste £350+ when a £220 one will do the same job
37. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #37 4th January 2009, 22:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeroybrown Correct why waste £350+ when a £220 one will do the same job

    because its not a waste if they prefer the note and style of the BTB
    
    why waste money on your saxo, when you could buy a better more capable car>
38. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #38 4th January 2009, 22:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan because its not a waste if they prefer the note and style of the BTB why waste money on your saxo, when you could buy a better more capable car>

    thats all you get...hardly any difference peformance wise...be nothing it....
    
    2nd class ride is better then a 1st class walk
39. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #39 4th January 2009, 22:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeroybrown 2nd class ride is better then a 1st class walk

    just buy the first class ride and be better than both.
40. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #40 4th January 2009, 22:43

    I like the saxo...thank you..
    
    Sayer have you looked into any other exhaust then a BTB
41. user_12092 Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS

    #41 4th January 2009, 22:44

    Are they all oval boxes as if so I dont like them lol.
    
    I loved the raspy sound of my pugsport on the gti but the ashley on the vts doesnt sound as nice
42. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #42 4th January 2009, 22:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeroybrown I like the saxo...thank you..

    and he likes the btb.....
43. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #43 4th January 2009, 22:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -Jason- Are they all oval boxes as if so I dont like them lol. I loved the raspy sound of my pugsport on the gti but the ashley on the vts doesnt sound as nice

    a few were made in a cut tip like my system however these are rare. Most came with the oval rear pipe similar to the OE system just slighlty enlarged.
44. VtsTom Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 Spalding-ish Posts: 2512 Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye

    #44 4th January 2009, 22:46

    My piper exhaust sounds very similer to the BTB when "on song", but its ALOT quiter when im just cruising at 60-70mph
45. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #45 4th January 2009, 23:17

    Sayer when are you visiting? Offers still there to have a go in mine