Bilstein gas inserts

1. user_27909 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 152 MK2 vtr saxo in silver

   #1 7th January 2009, 17:26

   I have just been looking at some billie gas inserts for the fros of my 2001 vtr saxo as the std units are completely useless.
   
   I was wondering what the gneeral opinion of the gas shocks is? are they any good as i have never used any of them before!
   
   they are suppose to be 20% stiffer than stock vts suspension which will suit me fine for road use.
   
   Trevor
2. user_12053 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 S-o-T, Staffordshire Posts: 1220 99 Saxo VTR, 2002 VTS

   #2 7th January 2009, 17:40

   Dyou mean the shocks themselves? or the actual innards? Which kit have you been lookin at mate cos theres the B6's, B8's, Grp N's...
3. user_27909 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 152 MK2 vtr saxo in silver

   #3 7th January 2009, 17:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by minxymears Dyou mean the shocks themselves? or the actual innards? Which kit have you been lookin at mate cos theres the B6's, B8's, Grp N's...

   similar to this
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITROEN-SAXO-A...1%7C240%3A1318
   
   If thats any help, the guy didnt say which model just that damping and rebound was 20% stiffer than stock vts damping.
   
   Cheers
   Trevor
4. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #4 7th January 2009, 17:45

   looks to be the b6s i think
   
   not bad shocks really
5. user_12053 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 S-o-T, Staffordshire Posts: 1220 99 Saxo VTR, 2002 VTS

   #5 7th January 2009, 17:56

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alex-VTS looks to be the b6s i think not bad shocks really

   same ...
   
   I have the B8's, the next ones up with matching Bilstein Sprint rear shocks and its damn good setup, 30% stiffer than standard iirc, but it can be harsh at times, so if youre looking for a little softer then they may well be the shocks to go for. If you want decent springs take a look at Eibach sportlines
6. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #6 7th January 2009, 17:57

   i didnt rate the sportlines
   too soft imo
   somethink like apex springs are what id choose
7. user_27909 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 152 MK2 vtr saxo in silver

   #7 7th January 2009, 18:05

   Thanks for the info,
   
   the plan is to get rear's to match the front damper wise then a set of 20-30mm lowering springs for the front perferably a bit stiffer than stock as im not sure about everyone else but i find the front of the vtr to be soft compared to the std torsion bar rear (19mm?).
   
   Trevor
8. user_27909 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 152 MK2 vtr saxo in silver

   #8 7th January 2009, 18:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alex-VTS i didnt rate the sportlines too soft imo somethink like apex springs are what id choose

   
   would apex springs -20 or -30mm
   and those B6 by the sound of it dampers front and rear and a 20mm drop on the rear be a good road setup?
   
   i used to race and occassionally do a rally in my old mans rwd 205 so im used to nice firm suspension but i dont think i could but up with it that hard on the road. the stock suspension is a bit soft for my liking!
9. vtsRob Regular Poster Joined: May 2007 Southampton Posts: 257 2002 Honda Integra DC5 Import

   #9 7th January 2009, 18:24

   Thats yuo trevor aint it lol its rob blandford, formerly of formula rs lol
10. user_27909 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 152 MK2 vtr saxo in silver

    #10 7th January 2009, 18:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtsRob Thats yuo trevor aint it lol its rob blandford, formerly of formula rs lol

    hello rob! how's it going now fella?
    
    Trevor
11. vtsRob Regular Poster Joined: May 2007 Southampton Posts: 257 2002 Honda Integra DC5 Import

    #11 7th January 2009, 18:48

    LOL!! IT IS YOU!!
    
    Didnt fancy a vts then mate, lol
12. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #12 7th January 2009, 19:19

    You sure thats not just the bilstein OE replacement gas shock mate? The b6 shock is advertised on kam racing as 30% stiffer along with the b8 which is also advertised as 30% stiffer, the only difference being the b8 is a shorter travel shock to cope with use with a lowering spring.
    
    Get the part number before you buy.
13. samco77on Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Portsmouth Posts: 265 2002 106 GTi

    #13 7th January 2009, 19:23

    get the B8 kit, amazing, makes such a difference!! i have them and never gonna change them.
    
    kam racing have an excellent service too
14. user_27909 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 152 MK2 vtr saxo in silver

    #14 7th January 2009, 20:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtsRob LOL!! IT IS YOU!! Didnt fancy a vts then mate, lol

    dont think there is a vts in N.I for a reasonable price thats not been badly abused, bodykitted etc.
    
    thanks for the advise, i will get the part number to compare to those listed on the kam racing site. if they are not the correct dampers then i wil just buy 2 from kam racing.
    
    Cheers
    Trevor