Help Exhaust System!!!!

1. -Donkei- Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Amesbury Posts: 710

   #1 12th January 2009, 17:35

   ive got a cherry bomber backbox on atm wit a straight through middle box and a decat pipe and my car sounds horrid like a tractor and its toooo noisy constanly poppin lol...
   
   just wondering wat a janspeed backbox would sound like with a standard middlebox and my decat pipe anybody no?
2. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

   #2 12th January 2009, 19:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by -Donkei- ive got a cherry bomber backbox on atm wit a straight through middle box and a decat pipe and my car sounds horrid like a tractor and its toooo noisy constanly poppin lol... just wondering wat a janspeed backbox would sound like with a standard middlebox and my decat pipe anybody no?

   Will sound better than what you got at the min............
3. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #3 12th January 2009, 19:25

   mate it doesnt sound like a tractor the cherry bomb exhausts are like professional rallying exhausts, it is just very loud, raspy and as you says pos a lot, am surprised you havnt been pulled for the noise.
4. JC-Furio Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5302 Helicopter

   #4 12th January 2009, 19:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 the cherry bomb exhausts are like professional rallying exhausts

   You actually being serious?
5. kcsaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 West Yorkshire Posts: 3471 Saxo 1.1

   #5 12th January 2009, 19:38

   where the hell is the middle box? and yes any other backbox would sound nicer and quieter.
6. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #6 13th January 2009, 11:11

   what size tailpipe do you currently have? As a general rule, smaller is usually slightly quieter
7. -Donkei- Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Amesbury Posts: 710

   #7 13th January 2009, 15:02

   think its about a 4 inch cherry bomber just completly straight through it does sound horrible and yea im suprised i havent been pulled to.
   
   so you guys think the janspeed will b better thn?
8. OLLYVTS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex . Posts: 5690 Subaru Impreza Wrx

   #8 13th January 2009, 15:08

   Have you thought about a magnex back box?
   
   They are not to loud and sound nice when you put your foot down.
9. -Donkei- Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Amesbury Posts: 710

   #9 13th January 2009, 19:05

   no havent tried that problem is i welded the cherry bomber to the staight through middle box, so ive only got my standard one left.
   
   might book it in for a custom exhaust
10. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #10 13th January 2009, 19:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -Donkei- no havent tried that problem is i welded the cherry bomber to the staight through middle box, so ive only got my standard one left. might book it in for a custom exhaust

    Any videos of this noise ??
11. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #11 13th January 2009, 20:48

    bet it sounds like a beast lol
12. -Donkei- Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Amesbury Posts: 710

    #12 14th January 2009, 09:44

    no but il try attach one up later lol hope you got earplugs lol
13. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #13 14th January 2009, 11:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -Donkei- no but il try attach one up later lol hope you got earplugs lol

    Why, how would we hear it
14. -Donkei- Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Amesbury Posts: 710

    #14 14th January 2009, 11:42

    duno il link it to somewere lol
15. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #15 14th January 2009, 11:47

    i would say just get a new backbox like a janspeed or magnex or it
    cherrybombs are designed for only 1 thing which is volume
    
    a magnex on a straght through sounds pretty good
    not heard a janspeed but a lot of people like them
16. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #16 14th January 2009, 12:00

    They sound okay on youtube, but i only found a american car
17. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #17 14th January 2009, 13:11

    yes mate i am being serious, most rally cars i have seen use cherry bomb exhausts, look in the motorsport section of demon tweeks. there for race/rally cars.
18. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #18 14th January 2009, 13:12

    the rally cars exhausts look nothing like the cherrybomb exhausts
19. Xsi16v_Jk Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Hereford Posts: 1090 S2 Rallye ITB. Seat Leon FR. Clio 182FF. XSi 16v

    #19 14th January 2009, 13:21

    Supersprint Race system!!!
20. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #20 14th January 2009, 13:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 yes mate i am being serious, most rally cars i have seen use cherry bomb exhausts, look in the motorsport section of demon tweeks. there for race/rally cars.

    most rally cars run custom made exhausts mate
    
    cherry bombs are not a motor sport exhaust
    the decebel limits will not allow you to use that type of system
21. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #21 14th January 2009, 14:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS most rally cars run custom made exhausts mate cherry bombs are not a motor sport exhaust the decebel limits will not allow you to use that type of system

    Agree.
22. -Donkei- Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Amesbury Posts: 710

    #22 14th January 2009, 15:57

    cherry bombers r just cheap and tacky exhausts to be honest with you i agree above they have custom exhausts made, sounds nothin like the cherrybombers either.
23. -Donkei- Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Amesbury Posts: 710

    #23 15th January 2009, 15:59

    anybody heared the argos performence big bore backboxes?
24. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #24 15th January 2009, 16:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -Donkei- anybody heared the argos performence big bore backboxes?

    nah, i know they have to be welded (universal)
25. -Donkei- Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Amesbury Posts: 710

    #25 15th January 2009, 16:06

    yea i no ive cut and welded the one on atm
26. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

    #26 15th January 2009, 16:17

    Argos =
    
    Kam Racing =
27. user_27198 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)

    #27 15th January 2009, 17:13

    Cherry bombs are for attention seeking 18 year olds and im pretty sure they are not commonly used in rally... as suggested they will be custom fabricated systems
    
    Excessively loud exhausts will now fail an not for sound emission, I got my new back box friday just gone and Powerflow dont sell stupidly loud back box's anymore as it will fail an MOT, new MOT regulations...
    
    Id say pick prettymuch anything will sound better than a cherry bomb exhaust!
    
    @ Powerflow you can choose a tip and baffle size and tell them how loud you want it to be so id suggest going there! been going there for 6 years now! box's are only £120 and they fit it for you so no worrying about the fact that you welded the last one on there!
28. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #28 15th January 2009, 17:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom Argos = Kam Racing =

    Agreed
    
    Edit; how do poweflow decide the noise of the exhaust ?? more baffels or something
29. Olly Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Meerkat Harborough Posts: 2638 Saxo vtr mk 2

    #29 15th January 2009, 21:43

    theyve got a rack of different silencers they just choose the appropriate one with the bore size you have. fully recomended
30. user_27198 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)

    #30 16th January 2009, 01:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by John_1.1i Agreed Edit; how do poweflow decide the noise of the exhaust ?? more baffels or something

    Yep as sax-oli said they let you pick a box with a suitable baffle size to give you the note and the volume you want
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sax-oli theyve got a rack of different silencers they just choose the appropriate one with the bore size you have. fully recomended

    Yep ive been going there for years with all my cars! Also you can pick different tips so it looks exactly how you want too!
31. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #31 16th January 2009, 01:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lippy Cherry bombs are for attention seeking 18 year olds and im pretty sure they are not commonly used in rally... as suggested they will be custom fabricated systems Excessively loud exhausts will now fail an not for sound emission, I got my new back box friday just gone and Powerflow dont sell stupidly loud back box's anymore as it will fail an MOT, new MOT regulations... Id say pick prettymuch anything will sound better than a cherry bomb exhaust! @ Powerflow you can choose a tip and baffle size and tell them how loud you want it to be so id suggest going there! been going there for 6 years now! box's are only £120 and they fit it for you so no worrying about the fact that you welded the last one on there!

    at powerflow you also risk very bad build quiality
    the exhausts are made in a very short time to a low standard and can have some very shocking bits
    ive evne seen 2 pipes welded at 90 degrees instead of having a curved tube
    
    i would stay well clear tbh
32. -Donkei- Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Amesbury Posts: 710

    #32 16th January 2009, 10:01

    seriously :O thers a place in wiltshire called maniflow which is ment to be good.
33. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #33 16th January 2009, 10:14

    it varies from place to place but i have seen some very apauling workmanship
    
    even as far as thed just filled gaps about 10mm with putty
    most seem to be cowboyys and tbh the systems arent really going to perform well in that state
34. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #34 16th January 2009, 10:30

    The thing you have to ask is are you buying an exhaust for looks or to see gains.
    A powerflow might fluke a power gain but its not going to be better than one developed properly.
35. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

    #35 16th January 2009, 11:35

    I had a powerflow system when i bought my vtr but then swapped it for a supersprint race system....at the moment i am in the process of saving money to get a new powerflow system and sell the supersprint as i prefered the look and sound of the powerflow And i didnt really notice any difference in performance.
36. user_27198 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 Exeter - Devon Posts: 3179 Nitrous'd Saxo VTS '52 Plate (S33 VTS)

    #36 16th January 2009, 17:27

    id say you were unlucky to see a powerflow setup that was bodged and you might find that the owner og the car jus went there to get it bodge fixed!?
    
    Loads of my friends ahve been to my local power flow and i have had 4 excellent setups from there.
    
    There wont be any power gains from just a backbox setup anyway so i was more interested in the sound tuning and that they look exactly how you want it to