What sort of gains can i expect??

12th January 2009, 23:39

Hi all,

VTR is going in for a service this weekend as the sevice book says it hasnt been done for 14k miles

(only had it 4 weeks) lol

So anyway..... having a good old service.

Now the work being done is as follows......

PLUGS
OIL + FILTER
FUEL FILTER
Coolant fluids etc

--- PLUS ---
GREEN REPLACEMENT AIR FILTER
Plus one of spencers ported/polished bodies

Now iv heard that the 8v engines respond well to std box with uprated filter, and just wondering if along with a ported body from spencer it will give me a noticeable difference? what with a service too to bring back some life.

Car has done 86k miles so not mega miles and on a 00 plate.

what do you rekon?

12th January 2009, 23:40

not much tbh

12th January 2009, 23:44

nothing really mate

12th January 2009, 23:51

nothing really noticible may be a little free'er up the revs

12th January 2009, 23:56

Yeah, well i was going to go for the inclosed induction and the ported throttle body, but reading a few threads over the last few weeks has made me opt for the 45 quid green replacement and put the 100 odd quid iv saved towards another part/parts....

And apparently according to one thread i read, people seem to think that on the vtr a replacement filter can give good gains.

i mean i dont expect to service the car and add a replacement filter and ported throttle body and get 50000bhp from it, just meaning more like free up revs? mpg? sound? torque? and iv read you will see approx 2-4bhp from the body alone, and the filter will work well id imagine with that?

13th January 2009, 00:26

tbh mate them polished tb's wont make and difference there was a thread on hear saying the may even loose you power

13th January 2009, 00:30

depends on the car
some cars react badly to servicing

for example i rekon if i serviced my 10 it would ruin it
its pretty bad and i rekon beyond repair

also the body wont give bhp just a little bit of throttle responce from what ive seen
a filter on its own might give 1 or 2 hp on a good day
basically itll be a very neglegable gain

13th January 2009, 09:13

You will see an improvement in how the car drives after a good service. It's likely to be smoother and you're mpg go up. Espec after 14k! lol

13th January 2009, 09:18

the car will jsut feal nippier but it may seem asthough it is a bit faster, i know after my induction kit it felt faster even though the gains will have been minimal.

13th January 2009, 09:23

Air filter modifications and throttle body mods will make the give you less mpg......

13th January 2009, 09:37

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Originally Posted by -ED-

Air filter modifications and throttle body mods will make the give you less mpg......

i always thought an iduction kit gave you better MPG?

13th January 2009, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123

i always thought an iduction kit gave you better MPG?

more air + more petrol = less mpg

and as for feeling quicker most of it is in your head

13th January 2009, 20:08

but th ikes of K and N and green etc advertise them saying like MORE POWER, BETTER MPG!

13th January 2009, 20:10

nothing really mate, although ive just had my tb port and polished a couple of days ago and it seemed to be alot smoother tbh

13th January 2009, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123

but th ikes of K and N and green etc advertise them saying like MORE POWER, BETTER MPG!

All bullsh*t. Brain washing you!

Common sence tells you, more fuel being burnt, less fuel in your tank which makes you not go as far.

I was thinking of simular thing, air filter (not a argos one lol) and deffo the throttle body

13th January 2009, 20:10

yer mate k and n also think they are the best.....if there is more air getting into the engine the ecu will compensate by pushing more petrol in to keep the air/fuel mix the same

13th January 2009, 20:11

read this mate.

http://www.knfilters.com/ads/linegas.aspx

13th January 2009, 20:12

mate K and N have been going for years, they are the best, and most widely used. ok there a bit behind on the old enclosed indution kits but theyl catch up.

13th January 2009, 20:13

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An engine that is getting the optimal amount of air flow is an efficient engine, and one that may show improvements in fuel mileage over an engine that is gasping for breath through a clogged air filter

so they are comparing a new filter to a old clogged up one mate, obviously a new k and n one will be better than a oe one full of shit

13th January 2009, 20:14

so in a way they can give better MPG.

13th January 2009, 20:16

ok can we stop arguing and get back on topic please.

13th January 2009, 20:19

i wasnt arguing i was just proving k&n are crap and will lie about gains to be had

13th January 2009, 22:20

k and n open filters lose power FACT! far too much heat absorbtion. i had a k and n 57i filter on mine and it ran like a bag of shit! it was on the car a week befor being slung and the stamdard intake put back on

14th January 2009, 17:47

I changed my std air box on my VTS and lost approx 7-8 bhp on the rollers supposedly...
It was a raceland closed induction kit which was aimed at the slam panel, great for keeping heat out of the air filter but not really overly well designed... nice noise though

From your service etc etc, id expect it to just feel smoother and poss pick up a bit better but as already suggested no more then 1/2 bhp gains!

YOU could be lucky like me and lose a few! lol