Drag racing engine setup?

16th January 2009, 16:35

Suggest parts for drag racing N/A engine, no nitrous. The setup must be better than super 1600 because of the restrictions there. So we have no restrictions like rpm limit or so.

16th January 2009, 16:45

how much have you got to spend?

16th January 2009, 16:49

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Originally Posted by vtr-richie

how much have you got to spend?

GOOD QUESTION!!

If it is staying N/A id say some Throttle Boddie and a VERY wild cam, but themn for a very wild cam on a vtr you have to uprate the internals which goes into more £££££

EDIT - Just realised there is no mention of a VTR or VTS im presuming now its a VTS which you can run good wild cams with

16th January 2009, 16:49

what sort of time do u need to run in the class u are in

16th January 2009, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Saxo_89

GOOD QUESTION!!

If it is staying N/A id say some Throttle Boddie and a VERY wild cam, but themn for a very wild cam on a vtr you have to uprate the internals which goes into more £££££

EDIT - Just realised there is no mention of a VTR or VTS im presuming now its a VTS which you can run good wild cams with

to run a wild cam on either engine uprated internals are a must, espec as the sort of cam to porduce the power he wants will be solid grind cam

16th January 2009, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Ryan

to run a wild cam on either engine uprated internals are a must, espec as the sort of cam to porduce the power he wants will be solid grind cam

ahh right i see, i was just going off the point you can run 708's etc with standard but for anything more wild than yes you wil need to uprate

16th January 2009, 17:12

708s are a very very mild cam though.

No use if super 1600 power isnt enough, 155bhp will be bad mmkay

16th January 2009, 17:38

Wide slick front tyres. Raised back end with super skinny rear wheels. NO interior, replacement carbon/gashfibre pannels and windows. Start with that on a standard engine and you have a good base to work from.

16th January 2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by VtsTom

Wide slick front tyres. Raised back end with super skinny rear wheels. NO interior, replacement carbon/gashfibre pannels and windows. Start with that on a standard engine and you have a good base to work from.

in cometitive drag racing no ammount of strippage will make up for a considerable deficit in power

16th January 2009, 17:47

True. No point in having lots of power with a full interior if your doing it competitively though.

16th January 2009, 18:02

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Originally Posted by VtsTom

True. No point in having lots of power with a full interior if your doing it competitively though.

yep but the question was about the engine not the car. Depends on the regs as to interior anyway some forms of motorsport you cant just strip everything

Im expecting some proiles of over 300 degrees to be used, will need to be built to withstand over 10k, although raising the compression to much will need to be monitiored imo with the nos

16th January 2009, 18:07

He doesnt want to include nitrous apparently.

If you chuck a shit load of cash at it, i bet 240 atf could be attained. Not easy to live with, or last very long but it would go like hell

16th January 2009, 18:34

can someone tell me what " super 1600 " is? i am guessing that its some form af racing class?

16th January 2009, 18:35

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Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123

can someone tell me what " super 1600 " is? i am guessing that its some form af racing class?

its the rally class

16th January 2009, 18:53

well what does he mean that it needs to be better tan super 1600 because of restrictins, does he have to have a certain ammount of power?

16th January 2009, 18:57

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Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123

well what does he mean that it needs to be better tan super 1600 because of restrictins, does he have to have a certain ammount of power?

super 1600 engines were restricted due to the laws or rules in the series.

so without them he wants more piwer

16th January 2009, 19:34

I am thinking about AX with VTS engine very light weight. Every possible piece of metal will be removed. Maybe custom made pistons will be needed for very high compression ratio. Racing gas can be used 110 octane plus methanol if needed. There is a very fast AX dragster in Greece but i can't find any specifications of the car it's low 10 sec.

16th January 2009, 19:39

low 10 seconds is very fast, i was reading an article on the fastest scooby quarter of mile, its from iceland and its in the 9 seconds, there doing even more work on it trying to get 8 seconds. i think the work is doen by roger clark motorsport or something liek that.

16th January 2009, 19:40

Have a look on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZSdZ_IU_Hg and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9aI2...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwIY_...eature=related

16th January 2009, 20:15

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Originally Posted by nassso

Suggest parts for drag racing N/A engine, no nitrous. The setup must be better than super 1600 because of the restrictions there. So we have no restrictions like rpm limit or so.

Getting power out of these engines is the simple part. With out boost and no N2O the real problem you have is using the power you get. When you start to get a lot of power from these engines they start to have very narrow power bands. If you can afford it you will want to be looking at a sequential shift dog box. Its best if you can get one with a brain so you can make flat shifts.

16th January 2009, 21:09

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Originally Posted by nassso

I am thinking about AX with VTS engine very light weight. Every possible piece of metal will be removed. Maybe custom made pistons will be needed for very high compression ratio. Racing gas can be used 110 octane plus methanol if needed. There is a very fast AX dragster in Greece but i can't find any specifications of the car it's low 10 sec.

low 10s with no nos or turbo or super charger show me a vid of a saxo engine running low 10s and i will belive it

just looked at the greece vids

16th January 2009, 21:13

Look the links i posted. It's 106 rally running 10.96 but the record is low 10.

16th January 2009, 21:14

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Originally Posted by andywiddss1

low 10s with no nos or turbo or super charger show me a vid of a saxo engine running low 10s and i will belive it

just looked at the greece vids

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nwIY_U...eature=related

Its a 10

16th January 2009, 21:16

just watched it thats mental and thats with no nos or charger

16th January 2009, 21:25

This is N/A class. So no turbo or supercharger. I am not 100% sure about nitrous but as i know it's not possible using nitrous in this class.

16th January 2009, 21:29

What engines are you aloud to use? I know some Honda tuners get mental BHP from NA motors

16th January 2009, 23:25

I believe its a different engine in the 106 vid above, I have seen a few pictures of it and the intakes are forward facing, unsure if the engine is still psa or if another manufacturer, either way, offensively quick in a straight line