Dicktator ecu ?

18th January 2009, 16:58

http://www.dicktator.co.za/
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dickt...Q5fAccessories

what you thing? excelent price.
for 16V with hayabusa TB

18th January 2009, 18:09

How come he has some sort of air filter piping connected up to what looks like a standard throttle body?

18th January 2009, 18:14

? TB are no fiting :-D only put on engine

what about Dicktator ?

18th January 2009, 18:17

lol, my bad!! Thought it was some sort of throttle body and ECU conversion.

The ECU you've posted looks similar to megasquirt - but a bit simpler? TBH, I wouldn't touch it personally as it seems a little bit unknown.

For £550 can get a PnP ECU fitted and mapped.

18th January 2009, 18:18

they are sat on the top but id be interested to find out about those ecu's

18th January 2009, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

lol, my bad!! Thought it was some sort of throttle body and ECU conversion.

The ECU you've posted looks similar to megasquirt - but a bit simpler? TBH, I wouldn't touch it personally as it seems a little bit unknown.

For £550 can get a PnP ECU fitted and mapped.

That would mean some reasonable travel costs at least, he lives in Slovakia according to his profile.

But deffo recommend the predator ecu, Andy's on here, have a look in the datashift forum bit.

20th January 2009, 18:49

no body? dicktator? :-(

20th January 2009, 19:13

ive heard good things about them and they are well known in germany. speak to boz as he has spoke to a bloke that supplies and maps these in germany and can supply you with the base maps.

some BIG power cars in south africa running these ecu's.

20th January 2009, 21:38

who is boz?

21st January 2009, 00:52

me lol

21st January 2009, 07:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by boz

me lol

and you can help me with maps for Dicktator?

21st January 2009, 08:16

I'm just reading through that EBAY article for you, and I just wanted to point out a couple of things whilst obviously trying to stay objective (since I make my own ECU's too!!)

It says "suitable for any single trigger event (distributor)" unfortunately the saxo has a 60-2 toothed wheel, so wouldn't be compatible. It may be that their software allows for a toothed wheel, and it probably would, but their advert doesn't word it very well.

Also - "single ignition driver......etc" unfortunately the Saxo has wasted spark ignition which requires 2 ignition drivers.

"2 Wire Idle Motor Control" unfortunately the IAC Stepper motor on the Saxo is a 4-wire bi-polar stepper motor so this will not be sufficient either.

I don't know whether you can order upgrades, or different packages, but certainly the one advertised there would not be of any use on a Saxo as it stands there.

Kind regards
Andy

21st January 2009, 08:44

boz has been in contact with a european dealer and he asures him thta they work with saxos and that he has mapped a few with good results.

21st January 2009, 09:19

I'm sure they'll have a version that does, just wanted to point out to anyone with any itchy buying-finger on e-bay, that the one advertised there will not run it.

Andy

21st January 2009, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by luthor1

I'm just reading through that EBAY article for you, and I just wanted to point out a couple of things whilst obviously trying to stay objective (since I make my own ECU's too!!)

It says "suitable for any single trigger event (distributor)" unfortunately the saxo has a 60-2 toothed wheel, so wouldn't be compatible. It may be that their software allows for a toothed wheel, and it probably would, but their advert doesn't word it very well.

Also - "single ignition driver......etc" unfortunately the Saxo has wasted spark ignition which requires 2 ignition drivers.

"2 Wire Idle Motor Control" unfortunately the IAC Stepper motor on the Saxo is a 4-wire bi-polar stepper motor so this will not be sufficient either.

I don't know whether you can order upgrades, or different packages, but certainly the one advertised there would not be of any use on a Saxo as it stands there.

Kind regards
Andy

Is some ECU for my saxo with basic maped about this price, or little more?

BOZ: what you thing ?

thanks for reply (all)

21st January 2009, 10:12

there are a few different models of dicktator ecus.
i have friends in south africa who run these units on their cars and they are more than up to the job. some of the ecus are very basic and some are more advanced. i have been in a few cars over there with them fitted and they were impressive, mainly on VWs and vauxhalls.

I enquired about these when i was over there a few years back and looked into it further at the back end of last year.

there is a guy in germany that can map the ecu that is suitable for the saxo TU with a 60-2 trigger wheel.

Some of the ecus you need an extra module to work with the ignition.

I have the code for the one that is suitable for the saxo and also the contact details of the guy in germany that will be able to supply a base map.

the main problem you will have is finding someone that will map it for you, as the base map will be a basic map and will need the ignition and injection tweaked to run with cams and TBs etc.

thats the reason why i didnt get one, just because they arent used in the UK.
i think they are very similar to megasquirt, but its a risk to get one and find that nobody can map it for you where you live lol

PM me if you want the details i have

21st January 2009, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by boz

there are a few different models of dicktator ecus.
i have friends in south africa who run these units on their cars and they are more than up to the job. some of the ecus are very basic and some are more advanced. i have been in a few cars over there with them fitted and they were impressive, mainly on VWs and vauxhalls.

I enquired about these when i was over there a few years back and looked into it further at the back end of last year.

there is a guy in germany that can map the ecu that is suitable for the saxo TU with a 60-2 trigger wheel.

Some of the ecus you need an extra module to work with the ignition.

I have the code for the one that is suitable for the saxo and also the contact details of the guy in germany that will be able to supply a base map.

the main problem you will have is finding someone that will map it for you, as the base map will be a basic map and will need the ignition and injection tweaked to run with cams and TBs etc.

thats the reason why i didnt get one, just because they arent used in the UK.
i think they are very similar to megasquirt, but its a risk to get one and find that nobody can map it for you where you live lol

PM me if you want the details i have

nice

OK I understand is problem for maped this Dicktator.
Maybe luthor help me, i hope.
thanks guys

21st January 2009, 10:27

each standalone ecu has different sortware to progrem the ecu.
they are all based around ignition and injection. but you need to find someone local to you that could map it or have a go. the base map will allow you to run the car, but it may be rough at idle if you are fitting cams and tb's.

anyone that knows how to map a car, should be able to play with the ignition and injection maps to improve the cars performance.

its just a case of finding someone that is confident to leave the comfort zone of what they are used to mapping and try something new.

once you have the base map, your half way there. They guy in germany might want a few pennies for the base map he has. i was working on getting one off him lol

21st January 2009, 10:31

just remember, its good to be different and pioneer new products. you dont have to stick to what people say to you. nothing is set in stone.
but you will need the support of someone who can help you out if you have any problems.

you will be best to find a local tuner that can or will have a go at mapping the ecu for you.

its not just a case of fitting the Throttle bodies and connecting up the ecu.
you will need to wire in the ecu, which will mean chopping the standard wiring loom to connect the new ecu up.
once it is all connected up, you will need to have the car mapped on a rolling road, or live mapped while driving the car.