brakes upgrades and help!!

1. matt29VTS Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Kineton, Nr Banbury Posts: 329 2001 saxo VTS

   #1 19th January 2009, 02:10

   hi everyone
   im looking at getting some bigger brakes for my vts, im only looking for a small upgrade to like the 266mm brakes. i was wondering if anyone had any advice on wat set up? is there any other conversions? not the gti6 one i want a smaller one cheers. and wat cars have these brakes so i no were to look and get the brakes? also wat will i need to fit these to my car, do i need sum carriers or they just bolt straight on?
   cheers
2. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #2 19th January 2009, 08:24

   try 306 gti-6 brakes, i was looking inot getting them a while back, they are quite cheap on ebay, scrap yars etc, get some mintex pads and thats a whole lot better than the standard brakes.

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3. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #3 19th January 2009, 10:29

   The 306 s16 and some 307 models have 266mm calipers
   
   pagid rs4 blue pads are the dogs
   
   and braided lines will help aswell

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4. matt29VTS Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Kineton, Nr Banbury Posts: 329 2001 saxo VTS

   #4 19th January 2009, 17:22

   thanx lads, have any of u got a rough price on these, and if there is any other setups other then the 266mm and the gti6? and any other car they are on?
5. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #5 19th January 2009, 18:04

   honestly cant say mate, i wouldnt imagine some gti-6 brakes and mintex pads being any more than £70 from a scrap yard. dont hold me to that though.
6. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #6 19th January 2009, 20:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by matt29VTS not the gti6 one i want a smaller one cheers.

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 try 306 gti-6 brakes, i was looking inot getting them a while back, they are quite cheap on ebay, scrap yars etc, get some mintex pads and thats a whole lot better than the standard brakes.

   haha nice reading of the origonal post there
   
   266 setups are very good unless you fit crap pads ect
   available off quite a few cars (and i think a few vans)
   as listed above the 306 xsi
   206 gti (not the 180 that has 283s)
   and i think the berlinog van/pug partner (i know some run 283s though)
7. Ge0_Ge Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Thanet/Kent Posts: 1335 106 GTI, Audi S3

   #7 19th January 2009, 20:51

   i just got some off a 306 1.8 cab same that are fitted to the xsi .. some on ebay atm there 266mm im waitin on delivery atm pugulike i think the seller is?
8. jim333 Established Member Joined: May 2007 Newcastle Posts: 1570 mk2 saxo vts vw bora turbo 106 gti

   #8 19th January 2009, 21:10

   try williamsvts he sells them
9. matt29VTS Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Kineton, Nr Banbury Posts: 329 2001 saxo VTS

   #9 20th January 2009, 02:01

   cheers lads thast been a big help just need to get hold of sum for the rite money im a uni student so have a empty pockets alot lol. has anyone got any pics just out of interest? and any fitting info or bit i may need to get the setup working as well as possible.
   cheers
10. matt29VTS Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Kineton, Nr Banbury Posts: 329 2001 saxo VTS

    #10 20th January 2009, 18:42

    bump bump
11. Olly Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Meerkat Harborough Posts: 2638 Saxo vtr mk 2

    #11 20th January 2009, 18:53

    get some that have already been fitted or some off williamsvts, he will pre grind them so they fit straight on. I got berlingo van ones and had to grind probs 8mm off the corner in a concave shape.

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12. matt29VTS Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Kineton, Nr Banbury Posts: 329 2001 saxo VTS

    #12 20th January 2009, 18:56

    cheers man i wil try to get sum of sumone that ha had tehm fitted but it just depends on there price. cheers
    
    pics anyone?? or more advice?? any opions on setups???
13. matt29VTS Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Kineton, Nr Banbury Posts: 329 2001 saxo VTS

    #13 21st January 2009, 00:11

    bump bump
14. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #14 21st January 2009, 00:22

    williamsvts ;D
15. matt29VTS Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Kineton, Nr Banbury Posts: 329 2001 saxo VTS

    #15 21st January 2009, 12:11

    cheers man, i ave posted on his thread just waiting for a reply now
16. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #16 21st January 2009, 12:39

    drop him a pm.
    
    i will tell him to have a look, we chat everyday lol
17. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #17 22nd January 2009, 13:01

    only got a 1.1 but the brakes are shocking... any ideas on what i can get to stop it on a T ?
    sounds stupid i know, but its needed. i heard Berlingo vans have pretty tight systems but will they fit? . . .
    
    any help guys much appreciated.
18. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #18 22nd January 2009, 13:57

    as long as you have the right size wheels you can fit 283s off a gti 6 on a 1.1
    
    best bet is to say what size wheels you need to fit the brakes behind
    
    rule of thumb
    13s=247mm
    14s=266mm
    15s=283mm
    
    available off various cars
    anything over 247s on a 1.1 and you may need a bigger master cylender as they have a tiny one

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19. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #19 22nd January 2009, 14:28

    get some high carbon brake disks and uprated pads and you will be amased at the difference over standard. I'm testing a set of RC5 Carbone Lorraine pads on my BMW and the stopping power due to the higher friction material is very noticable. Also the pad material does not compress so the pedal feel is vastly improved.
20. sanchez89 Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Walsall Posts: 343 03 Black VTR

    #20 23rd January 2009, 20:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing get some high carbon brake disks and uprated pads and you will be amased at the difference over standard. I'm testing a set of RC5 Carbone Lorraine pads on my BMW and the stopping power due to the higher friction material is very noticable. Also the pad material does not compress so the pedal feel is vastly improved.

    high carbon brake discs?
    
    i bet those arent cheap. do you think those would compare to a larger disc upgrade? or would the sheer extra size of bigger rotors still win?
21. CooperVTR Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Telford Posts: 864 Gold Saxo VTR

    #21 23rd January 2009, 20:27

    do the 306 (xsi or gti-6) calipers need any modifications to fit?
22. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #22 23rd January 2009, 21:42

    No they will fit straight on
    
    the gti6 ones you will need the yokes for
    
    either of them you should fit new longer hoses with
23. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #23 24th January 2009, 18:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS as long as you have the right size wheels you can fit 283s off a gti 6 on a 1.1 best bet is to say what size wheels you need to fit the brakes behind rule of thumb 13s=247mm 14s=266mm 15s=283mm available off various cars anything over 247s on a 1.1 and you may need a bigger master cylender as they have a tiny one

    well im on VTR alloys atm, so best bet then would be 266 ?
    so would changing the master, braided lines and a set of 266 be worth the time and money ?
    or spend a bit more on getting some 15s... but im thinkin that will get too big for the lanes.!
    
    its not a problem, but i dont want to be spending out sh*t loads for something im not going to use to potential. i do alot of back road and lane driving, just gets on my nerves as im braking too early in the corners to make sure i can take it!
    
    thanks
24. matt29VTS Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Kineton, Nr Banbury Posts: 329 2001 saxo VTS

    #24 30th January 2009, 19:50

    what cars have the 266mm set up??
25. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #25 20th February 2009, 15:33

    tahts the fronts sorted for now * jsut blagged a set up from a stacked VTR * what can i do about the rear, i knowt he braking is split like 70/30 to front anyway and my handbrake is about 6 clicks now, just adjust the cable and leave the back as it is?
26. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #26 20th February 2009, 16:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sanchez89 high carbon brake discs? i bet those arent cheap. do you think those would compare to a larger disc upgrade? or would the sheer extra size of bigger rotors still win?

    most are about the same price as other 'performance disks' OMP's are around £120 for a set. Big rotors will only help heat dissipation on road cars.
27. Alex_Oldroyd Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Leeds Posts: 314 posi blue Vts Beaten black and blue!

    #27 20th February 2009, 19:00

    depnds on usage on any brake setup, iv just fit sum 312mm discs to the rear, yes, rear, of my mates polo and he says there poo till warmed up, there vented ECS tuning discs as well that came off a turbo'd golf R32 so there not cheapies
28. lharrowing Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 norwich Posts: 941 Citroen Saxo Westcoast MK1

    #28 23rd February 2009, 21:57

    how easy is it to take a vts abs system and wack on a 1999 westcoast???
29. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #29 9th March 2009, 15:36

    cadence brake then save yourself a load of bother