4-2-1

1. mini-dan Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Telford Posts: 121 Mk2 Posi Vtr

   #1 19th January 2009, 17:55

   im looking into buying a 4-2-1 manifold but not sure what type to get!!
   any advice would be appreciated
2. jdizzy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2008 Telford, Shropshire Posts: 6563 Fabia VRs

   #2 19th January 2009, 17:57

   raceland or janspeed FTW
3. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #3 19th January 2009, 17:58

   raceland, janspeed, supersprint, piper not much difference between them all really.
4. mini-dan Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Telford Posts: 121 Mk2 Posi Vtr

   #4 19th January 2009, 18:06

   hat type of prices do you think im looking at??
5. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #5 19th January 2009, 18:07

   from about £150 to £300+
6. jdizzy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2008 Telford, Shropshire Posts: 6563 Fabia VRs

   #6 19th January 2009, 18:09

   £150 upwards!!! you getting just the manifold?
7. mini-dan Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Telford Posts: 121 Mk2 Posi Vtr

   #7 19th January 2009, 18:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jdizzy £150 upwards!!! you getting just the manifold?

   nar im getting the full system done hopefully it will all be done by Friday
8. jdizzy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2008 Telford, Shropshire Posts: 6563 Fabia VRs

   #8 19th January 2009, 18:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mini-dan nar im getting the full system done hopefully it will all be done by Friday

   where we going to get it done?
9. gav1513 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Cosby, Leicester Posts: 1345 1971 Mini clubman saloon 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

   #9 19th January 2009, 18:38

   im hopefully goin to be gettin the milltek mani wiv sportcat in nxt couple of weeks wondering if any1 had it? i dnt rly wanna de-cat mine n i no the mani i want wont b as gd as a de-cat but any1 wiv any experience with this mani i wud like to hear bout it
10. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

    #10 19th January 2009, 18:42

    a raceland is your best bet.
    have a look on kam's web site
    
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...06-16v-12.html
11. gav1513 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Cosby, Leicester Posts: 1345 1971 Mini clubman saloon 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #11 19th January 2009, 18:58

    i dont rly wanna de-cat tho cos of changing it for MOT every year, wot do u guys do wen it comes to MOT time?
12. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

    #12 19th January 2009, 19:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gav1513 i dont rly wanna de-cat tho cos of changing it for MOT every year, wot do u guys do wen it comes to MOT time?

    i put the cat back on
13. gav1513 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Cosby, Leicester Posts: 1345 1971 Mini clubman saloon 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #13 19th January 2009, 19:07

    i just think wud b a pain in the arse rly lol wots the difference in power between havin a de-cat and a sport cat?
14. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #14 19th January 2009, 19:11

    not sure, but a decat is a lot cheaper. and probably will give more of a gain.
15. gav1513 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Cosby, Leicester Posts: 1345 1971 Mini clubman saloon 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #15 19th January 2009, 19:13

    i wanna get a remap aswell im thinkin of gettin the mani first then gettin remap done by Cituning
16. samco77on Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Portsmouth Posts: 265 2002 106 GTi

    #16 19th January 2009, 19:24

    i just bought a janspeed mani, very well made, got it from a 'contact' at janspeed, got it for way less than a raceland would be. and janspeed fit easier.
17. liam_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Stoke on trent Posts: 1132 Corsa GSI C20LET

    #17 19th January 2009, 23:42

    yh but aint there some issues with the oil filter position or summit?
18. L333vvI Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 bristol Posts: 131 citroen saxo vtr 02 and a citreon berlingo van

    #18 21st January 2009, 00:01

    gav 1513 youve got a mk2 so the cats in the mani if you change the mani you de cat it i belive
19. mcv89 L-plater Joined: Jul 2008 Wishaw Posts: 30 2004 clio 182 beast of a thing and a super loud 1

    #19 21st January 2009, 00:08

    i just fitted a janspeed to the exact same car it decats it str8 away . fitting it seemd a pain at first coz of the relocating the oil filter but it turned out to be extremely easy sum one has stuck a how to guide for a furio in the forums was extremely helpful as it the same steps for our vtr power gains are gd ad expect about 10 bhp combined with a gd system.
20. L333vvI Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 bristol Posts: 131 citroen saxo vtr 02 and a citreon berlingo van

    #20 21st January 2009, 00:12

    depending on how much money you wanna spend you could get a supersprint and you wouldnt have to move the oil filter. but mcv89 said its easy enough so save those pennies for more mods, upto you my friend
21. gav1513 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Cosby, Leicester Posts: 1345 1971 Mini clubman saloon 2003 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #21 21st January 2009, 08:09

    yeh the majority of manis will decat it but there r a couple that have a sports cat built in
22. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #22 21st January 2009, 08:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mcv89 i just fitted a janspeed to the exact same car it decats it str8 away . fitting it seemd a pain at first coz of the relocating the oil filter but it turned out to be extremely easy sum one has stuck a how to guide for a furio in the forums was extremely helpful as it the same steps for our vtr power gains are gd ad expect about 10 bhp combined with a gd system.

    10bhp is barely achievable with a good system, manifold and induction, you would need at least that and a decat to safely get 10bhp mate.