Lamba sleeve?

1. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

   #1 20th January 2009, 11:46

   Where can i get one of these from??? When i put my 106 downpipe on i will need to sleeve one of the lamba sensors right???
2. don55 Established Member Joined: Feb 2004 southampton United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1881 Super stripped VTS transit camper iveco work hor

   #2 20th January 2009, 11:47

   gmc do them
3. don55 Established Member Joined: Feb 2004 southampton United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1881 Super stripped VTS transit camper iveco work hor

   #3 20th January 2009, 11:47

   hang on, what exactly are you doing ?
4. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #4 20th January 2009, 11:51

   hes putting a 106 non cat mani on his vtr i think
   and wants o sleeve the lower lamda
5. don55 Established Member Joined: Feb 2004 southampton United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1881 Super stripped VTS transit camper iveco work hor

   #5 20th January 2009, 11:53

   ah right, you sleve one sensor and leave the other at the bottom.
6. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

   #6 20th January 2009, 11:58

   ive got a 106 downpipe to fit to my mani so it will decat my manifold, so i need to do something with one of the sensors dont i ??
   and the other sensor screws into the manifold?
7. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

   #7 20th January 2009, 12:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by DJDannyB ive got a 106 downpipe to fit to my mani so it will decat my manifold, so i need to do something with one of the sensors dont i ?? and the other sensor screws into the manifold?

   Yep you just leave the top sensor where it is and put the one after the cat in a sleeve
8. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

   #8 20th January 2009, 23:24

   i see, thanks.
   is this the same procedure for the raceland manifold as i think im going to purchase one of these instead of arsing about with the standard mani
9. L333vvI Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 bristol Posts: 131 citroen saxo vtr 02 and a citreon berlingo van

   #9 21st January 2009, 00:18

   they sell the sleaves on kam racing
10. L333vvI Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 bristol Posts: 131 citroen saxo vtr 02 and a citreon berlingo van

    #10 21st January 2009, 00:19

    yeah i think so wat ever mani you get youve gotta sleave that second lamda or the engine mangement light stays on i belive
11. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #11 21st January 2009, 01:09

    thats correct mate. you need to sleeve the 2nd lambda. once the cat is out the mixture will be rich. you need the 2nd lambda sensor to be read clean, so the idea is to fit it to a sleeve and this tricks the ecu into thinking the cat is still in place.
    gmc do them and a few other places as well.
    then its just a case of fitting the lambda to it and securing it out of the way
    
    with out it, the ecu light will come on and bug the shit out of you
12. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

    #12 21st January 2009, 09:08

    does it also put the ecu into some crazy mode?
    Ill get a sleeve if i can find one on one of the sites, ill check cam and gmc now..
13. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

    #13 21st January 2009, 09:10

    http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/index...roducts_id=186
    
    i take it this is the correct part ??
14. Docsamty Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Oxfordshire - Banbury Posts: 713 S1 Rallye

    #14 21st January 2009, 09:17

    Yeh, i think so.
15. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #15 21st January 2009, 10:33

    it may send the ecu into a safe mode when the light comes on?? im not 100%
    
    mine used to come on and off all the time even when i had the sleeve fitted.
    
    you will also need a plug to blank off the hole in the manifold or decat pipe where the lambda should be.
16. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #16 21st January 2009, 10:34

    that is the correct sleeve from gmc matey
17. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

    #17 21st January 2009, 18:37

    ok and is that lamba blanking plug on kamracing the right plug?
18. L333vvI Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 bristol Posts: 131 citroen saxo vtr 02 and a citreon berlingo van

    #18 21st January 2009, 18:39

    yeah it is i belive m8 but just ask them on here
19. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

    #19 21st January 2009, 18:43

    fuck that 15 quid for a sleve home made with a coper pipe ftw actualy come to think of it i dont have mine in a sleve and the em light hasnt came on. and as for the plugging the hole in the mani i was rough and got two washers just smaller than the size of the hole. one on the outside one on the inside poped a bolt and nut through it tightened it up and covered it with zorst paste. lol
20. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #20 21st January 2009, 20:25

    the main reason for the sleeve is that the lambda has a heat element in it that gets mega hot! try to keep hold of it when you start up the car and see what happens lol.
21. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

    #21 21st January 2009, 20:27

    oh well i better check its not melted anything lol
22. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #22 21st January 2009, 20:33

    its there to aid the reading of mixture during cold start idles etc. it does get hot on its own.
    the lambda only works on idle and on light load.
23. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

    #23 21st January 2009, 20:35

    think i better move it its sitting on top of the pipes next to the battery i just used the clip for them to hold it in place.
24. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #24 21st January 2009, 20:39

    just make sure its not getting hot and melting anything.
    
    i just have mine on a small plate mounted next to the bottom of the manifold. getting cool air on it all of the time.
25. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

    #25 21st January 2009, 20:45

    just moved it will need to make a sleeve at the week. it hadnt melted anything but better save than sorry
26. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

    #26 21st January 2009, 22:58

    ill buy the propper sleeve, is a lot of money but worth it i suppose..
27. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #27 22nd January 2009, 11:02

    it will be easy to make a sleeve up. you just need to know the thread of the lambda sensor. either have someone machine one up for you, or find a nut that fits and weld the nut to a hollow tube and weld an end on the tube.
    
    
    you could try and PM williams_vts, tell him i said for you to ask. he may be able to machine one for you i know he has done them in the past, just depends on how busy he is at work.
28. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

    #28 22nd January 2009, 11:11

    hmmm ok ill try him, although how much would this all cost? the sleeve to buy is £15 sooo...
29. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #29 22nd January 2009, 11:16

    ask him if he can do you one first.
    
    not sure on the cost, if he can do it, he normally does them on the side when he is not busy.
    
    i will text and ask him now
30. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

    #30 22nd January 2009, 11:20

    yeah thanks mate that would be great
31. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #31 22nd January 2009, 11:23

    he can make a few up for 5 of the finest english pounds plus the delivery charge
    
    £5 + delivery
32. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #32 22nd January 2009, 11:24

    best to send him a pm saying you want one so he knows.
    
    same with anyone else wanting one.
33. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

    #33 22nd January 2009, 11:35

    sorted cheers mate thats mint
34. L333vvI Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 bristol Posts: 131 citroen saxo vtr 02 and a citreon berlingo van

    #34 22nd January 2009, 16:44

    awesome ill beer that in mind when i get my mani and exhaust betta than 15 quid lol
35. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

    #35 6th September 2009, 15:32

    so why do 00- vts decats come with a lambda hole if all that does (when you put the 2nd lambda in) is put the management light on?
    seems a bit pointless putting a lambda hole in the decat at all does it not?