lower 40 or 60.

1. Mk1VTR Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Co. Down Ireland Posts: 277 Mk1 VTR

   #1 2nd February 2009, 18:42

   http://http://img82.imageshack.us/my...lvtr002zn9.jpg
   
   this is my vtr earlier today after being washed.
   im planning on getting it lowered shortly but dont know how low to go.
   also i have 15'' alloys on at the min but have a set of standard vtr one to. which would look better?
   will lowering 60 pass MOT?
   
   any advise would be great. cheers
   
   
   http://s392.photobucket.com/albums/p...on=tageditmany
   http://s392.photobucket.com/albums/p...iallVTR002.jpg
2. user_26073 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2008 croydon, surrey Posts: 4343 106 quicksilver

   #2 2nd February 2009, 18:44

   lower it 50
3. Mk1VTR Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Co. Down Ireland Posts: 277 Mk1 VTR

   #3 2nd February 2009, 18:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Liam-westcoast lower it 50

   with vtr alloys or the ones on it now?
4. user_26073 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2008 croydon, surrey Posts: 4343 106 quicksilver

   #4 2nd February 2009, 18:51

   link did not work for me
5. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

   #5 2nd February 2009, 18:51

   50 on vts wheels
6. user_26566 Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 harlow/ essex Posts: 1414 stealth Vtr/S

   #6 2nd February 2009, 18:53

   you will get some problems with lowering it 60mm and will kill your suspension unleess you upgrade it, plus lowering 40mm is best for handling and mt suspension is fine and haven't needed to change anything!!
   40mm ftw
7. landerboi13 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Exeter Posts: 922 Ford Fiesta

   #7 2nd February 2009, 18:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mk1VTR http://http://img82.imageshack.us/my...lvtr002zn9.jpg this is my vtr earlier today after being washed. im planning on getting it lowered shortly but dont know how low to go. also i have 15'' alloys on at the min but have a set of standard vtr one to. which would look better? will lowering 60 pass MOT? any advise would be great. cheers http://s392.photobucket.com/albums/p...on=tageditmany

   the amount it's lowerd by has no effect on mot,, aslong as it's done proberly. i'd got 50mm over vtr rims. oh and your link dont work
8. Mk1VTR Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Co. Down Ireland Posts: 277 Mk1 VTR

   #8 2nd February 2009, 18:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Liam-westcoast link did not work for me

   hopefully the two at the bottom work now mate.
9. Mk1VTR Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Co. Down Ireland Posts: 277 Mk1 VTR

   #9 2nd February 2009, 19:00

   is any of the links working??
   
   its my first time trying it and i followed a guide, thought i had done it right.
10. Mk1VTR Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Co. Down Ireland Posts: 277 Mk1 VTR

    #10 2nd February 2009, 19:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by landerboi13 the amount it's lowerd by has no effect on mot,, aslong as it's done proberly. i'd got 50mm over vtr rims. oh and your link dont work

    i was thinking of also gettin the vtr rims sprayed black and mayb getting a widemouth lower grille.
    they look mint. what ya think?
11. WestCoast98 Regular Poster Joined: May 2008 Lincoln Posts: 263 2005 VW Golf R32, Mk2 VTS, 2015 Volvo V40

    #11 2nd February 2009, 19:05

    50!! i just picked up a set of Spax Suspension Kit, which I think is adjustable so Im gonna go 50, which is pretty much enough as Im on VTS wheels
12. landerboi13 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Exeter Posts: 922 Ford Fiesta

    #12 2nd February 2009, 19:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mk1VTR i was thinking of also gettin the vtr rims sprayed black and mayb getting a widemouth lower grille. they look mint. what ya think?

    links are working now mate... nice motor . yeah black wheels and wide mouth cant really go wrong,, bloke on here's just done a widemouth,, hit the search button for insperation
13. Alexvtrmk1 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Newcastle Posts: 609 Saxo Mk1 VTr Blue

    #13 2nd February 2009, 19:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mk1VTR http://http://img82.imageshack.us/my...lvtr002zn9.jpg this is my vtr earlier today after being washed. im planning on getting it lowered shortly but dont know how low to go. also i have 15'' alloys on at the min but have a set of standard vtr one to. which would look better? will lowering 60 pass MOT? any advise would be great. cheers http://s392.photobucket.com/albums/p...on=tageditmany http://s392.photobucket.com/albums/p...iallVTR002.jpg

    40 all around Best handeling. mines done 40, handels mint (with
    VTr wheels)
14. Mk1VTR Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Co. Down Ireland Posts: 277 Mk1 VTR

    #14 2nd February 2009, 20:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by landerboi13 links are working now mate... nice motor . yeah black wheels and wide mouth cant really go wrong,, bloke on here's just done a widemouth,, hit the search button for insperation

    yeah i was looking at the fella cars last night. his looks calss. im gona go for that sort of look.
15. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #15 3rd February 2009, 07:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by toms_vtr you will get some problems with lowering it 60mm and will kill your suspension unleess you upgrade it

    Mine's been 60mm on standard dampers for almost a year now, done a track day on em, and its still fine.
    
    But, i've just bought a Spax PSX kit so its back up to 40mm for me, which I agree, is claimed to be a better height for handling, maybe its why my old car felt more stable?
16. user_22749 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport

    #16 3rd February 2009, 09:21

    Go 60...mine is down 60 on standard shocks for about a year...the rear shocks have started to leak but its all good! lol. Everyone says 40 is best for handling but mine handles like a dream
    
    O and 60 looks 100times better
17. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #17 3rd February 2009, 09:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom 60 looks 100times better

    Tom is right, if you want the look, 60mm and dont pussy around with thinking 50mm might cut it and look 60 but still retain some handling because it wont you will always want 60mm
    
    Having said that, 40mm is still very good and as alot have said the handling is also very good. But if you know at heart you are in it for the crusing at -60mm then dont hesitate, just uprate your dampers lol.
18. DJDannyB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Stockport Posts: 2687

    #18 3rd February 2009, 09:29

    im going 60 all round
19. MR_N Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR

    #19 3rd February 2009, 09:35

    25ftw!. well im on pugsport gravel dampers and falkner 225lb springs and grpN's at the back, handles better than it did before when it was down 40 on spax springs
20. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #20 3rd February 2009, 09:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MR_N 25ftw!. well im on pugsport gravel dampers and falkner 225lb springs and grpN's at the back, handles better than it did before when it was down 40 on spax springs

    With that sort of setup, im not surprised, not sure he was on about anything that sorted lol.
    
    Why does everyone get the gravel dampers instead of the tarmac ones?
21. MR_N Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR

    #21 3rd February 2009, 09:43

    same spring rate just a bit longer iirc
22. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #22 3rd February 2009, 09:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MR_N same spring rate just a bit longer iirc

    Surely the spring rate is dependant on the spring spec you use and not the damper?
    
    Is the tarmac one shorter you mean? Like a standard shock and then a Billie B8 in comparison?
23. MR_N Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR

    #23 3rd February 2009, 09:48

    sorry meant the damping rate. yes tarmac one is shorter or so ive been told on ssc and shed
24. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #24 3rd February 2009, 09:59

    cool man cheers bud
25. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #25 3rd February 2009, 14:16

    Depends what your using the car for mate???
    
    is it going to be used for the odd track day or do you want it purely for looks or a bit of both?
    
    40mm or less - Handling
    50mm - Handling and looks
    60mm or more - Looks
26. Mk1VTR Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Co. Down Ireland Posts: 277 Mk1 VTR

    #26 3rd February 2009, 21:16

    so does the car pass mot when lowered 60mm.
    ive heard they fail cars if they are too low.
    any truth in it?
    have any of you guys put a vtr/vts through mot while lowered 60mm??
27. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #27 3rd February 2009, 21:23

    40mm all round.........
28. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #28 3rd February 2009, 21:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mk1VTR so does the car pass mot when lowered 60mm. ive heard they fail cars if they are too low. any truth in it? have any of you guys put a vtr/vts through mot while lowered 60mm??

    Only if it wont go on the Mot ramp bud..........
29. Mk1VTR Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Co. Down Ireland Posts: 277 Mk1 VTR

    #29 3rd February 2009, 21:26

    does anyone have any pics of vtr/vts lowered 40mm and 60mm to help me decide what to lower?
    i need a little help lads. lol
30. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #30 4th February 2009, 00:04

    60 looks better imo as 40 doesnt look low enough , however if u have rear pasengers i wouldnt go 60 , mine rubs over bumps at 40 with a full car
31. scottyvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2007 Paisley / Brighouse lol Posts: 4561 Corsa VXRacing

    #31 4th February 2009, 00:25

    ours is 50mm front 45mm rear for passengers etcs on vts wheels 3 passengers in the back and it dosent rub..............looks superb!!!!!!
    
    
    but i would go 40mm
32. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #32 4th February 2009, 01:03

    have a look at dsh85's guide
    
    but heres mine down 60mm front 40mm rear (because of the install it evens it out)
    
    
    
    
    
33. Pat_Vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 North London Posts: 6170 Land Rover Discovery

    #33 4th February 2009, 01:19

    do rear like 100mm and front 60mm
    
    propa styleee
34. asmith88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Newcastle upon tyne Posts: 149 2000 vtr

    #34 4th February 2009, 13:11

    50 all round defo!!
35. MR_N Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Fareham Posts: 3029 Saxo VTR

    #35 4th February 2009, 13:13

    Pred stop posting pics of your car. im jealous now
36. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #36 4th February 2009, 15:56

    Had to be a whore and do it
37. Mk1VTR Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Co. Down Ireland Posts: 277 Mk1 VTR

    #37 4th February 2009, 17:15

    nice car pred,
38. OLLYVTS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex . Posts: 5690 Subaru Impreza Wrx

    #38 4th February 2009, 21:44

    I voted 60mm.
    
    When i lowered my saxo i lowered it 40mm then wished i lowered it more after.