Milltek sports cat manifold

1. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #1 3rd February 2009, 09:19

   Under neath is just a pasted description from the CI tuning website for the Milltek sports cat manifold for saxo vtr 2001>
   
   Stainless steel 4 branch manifold incorporating 'Sport' cat. It has been designed for Saxo 8v 2001> models with twin lambda sensors. Giving you the option to release that extra power! Less restrictive than the standard cat but it will still pass an MOT. Approx 10 BHP increase! Please Note: The 'Sport Cats' used in our manifolds are made by HJS in Germany, precious metal type, 200 CPSi.
   
   My questions to anyone are:
   
   10bhp???? Really?
   
   Does anyone have this who can vouch for the gain?
   
   Is it worth the extra over one of these in the link below?
   
   http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...o-vtr-998.html
   
   Thanks.
2. Skinner-4 Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Trowbridge (Wiltshire) Posts: 409 1986 MK1 GOLF C

   #2 3rd February 2009, 10:22

   How much more is it? I just bought one in link will be fitted soon when i work out how and when my cat back sysentem arrives Even tho looks like im taking it to a garage as for snow so ill see what the difference is
3. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #3 3rd February 2009, 10:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Skinner-4 How much more is it? I just bought one in link will be fitted soon when i work out how and when my cat back sysentem arrives Even tho looks like im taking it to a garage as for snow so ill see what the difference is

   The milltek manifold is £395 and the janspeed is about £250 on saxp discount.
   
   So another £150 really. If the milltek does give an extra 10bhp then OMG WOW bud how does this differ to that of the Janspeed.
4. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #4 3rd February 2009, 10:37

   janspeed is mild steel but quality os good to. Miltek is well built but for the price and minimal difference go for the janspeed save yourself that 150 and get some other stuff for the car like induction braces etc if you aint already
5. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #5 3rd February 2009, 10:37

   10bhp increase from it? is that not being a bit generous?
6. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #6 3rd February 2009, 10:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush janspeed is mild steel but quality os good to. Miltek is well built but for the price and minimal difference go for the janspeed save yourself that 150 and get some other stuff for the car like induction braces etc if you aint already

   Yeh good points.
   
   At the moment i have the supersprint race centre and race backbox with green panel filter and seems to be very responsive tbh. But i know the manifold will make a difference its just sooooo obvious lol.
   
   Also have B8's with eibachs, upper and lower braces (the lower at 50mm is fine everyone btw just got to watch where your going if you dont know the area) and a 266mm setup with hoses.
   
   Seems to be all good, thinking of the spencer vts porting and polishing of throttle body soon too.
   
   Any other ideas?
7. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #7 3rd February 2009, 10:50

   150 could get a 2nd hand cam plus some other bits to do the cam swap
8. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #8 3rd February 2009, 10:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush 150 could get a 2nd hand cam plus some other bits to do the cam swap

   Some of the newman cams are quite cheap right? Ideally i would want one that could work with oem internals but WOULD need a map too so i sort of get the best of both.
9. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #9 4th February 2009, 08:40

   tbh mate if you want to do it cheap then kent or piper will regrind a standard VTR cam to 270 spec for £100 doesnt need remap either than one
10. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #10 4th February 2009, 09:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush tbh mate if you want to do it cheap then kent or piper will regrind a standard VTR cam to 270 spec for £100 doesnt need remap either than one

    Really? How would i go about doing this? Would have to send it to them or?
    
    Also i really tbh would prefer to run a cam that needed a map but didnt need uprated internals. Would be going in a well serviced 2001 plate 98bhp vtr engine with 60k on it.
    
    What lift can i run without uprating internals but with map?
    
    Thanks again.
11. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

    #11 4th February 2009, 11:36

    I had one of these on my vtr, and no you dont get +10bhp. I had the miltek, a full magnex system, a bmc and when i had my rolling roaded i made 107bhp and 119flb torque. It was the torque increase that i was very happy with. Plus you will pass an MOT with it, and its a work of art tbh, but you have to ask your self if it warrents the extra money over say the janspeed for example...many will say no...but i had deep pockets at the time lol