Ceramic coating Dp manifold - yes or no?

1. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

   #1 7th February 2009, 11:56

   Been thinking about doing this for a while, should i get my DP turbo manifold and downpipe ceramic coated in white?
   
   something like this:
   
   http://www.zircotec.com/page/-_performance_white/41
   
   This is a pic of my manifold, not sure whether to leave it as it is or get it coated in white, which is meant to limit teperatures by 30%?!
   
   
   
   
2. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #2 7th February 2009, 12:47

   i say got it in white m8, 30% is alot and think how much it will set off your engine bay
3. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #3 7th February 2009, 12:49

   Definately sounds like it would be worth it - doesnt it cost like £200+ for a manifold ot be coated?
4. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #4 7th February 2009, 20:26

   id go for red cos it looks cool, is this like a insulation thats "bonded" onto it
5. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #5 7th February 2009, 20:46

   I'd definatley have it in white !! Looks cool, and I'm sure can only be a good things with regards to performance !!
6. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #6 7th February 2009, 21:25

   white without a doubt, and the obvious reducing engine bay temps is a good idea
7. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #7 7th February 2009, 21:34

   do it white..
   but make sure you get it done inside and outside.
   
   
   lets face it matey, with a hot blower in the bay, everything like this will help. lower temps mean more power as you know.
8. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

   #8 7th February 2009, 21:42

   if you only get the outside done it damages the manifold as the heat will stay inside and fracture the metal, if you do get it done get inside and out
9. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #9 7th February 2009, 22:17

   that manifold is a work of art
   
   wonder if they ever finished the 306 s16 one they started....
   
   if you can mate get it done in and out.
   
   im looking at having mine done
   
   oh and if your usieng a metal inlet then get aptfe gasket and fit with stainless bolts as this helps aswell
10. AquariousRS L-plater Joined: Aug 2008 Skelmersdale Posts: 75 Saxo VTS track toy - Rolled Corsa Sport LET - 330

    #10 8th February 2009, 00:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tweeqd if you only get the outside done it damages the manifold as the heat will stay inside and fracture the metal, if you do get it done get inside and out

    But then what if the inside flakes away and hits your turbine wheel spinning at 100,000rpm?
    
    Is that an externally gated manifold and what turbo are you using?
    
    Thanks
    
    Tim.
11. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #11 8th February 2009, 18:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AquariousRS But then what if the inside flakes away and hits your turbine wheel spinning at 100,000rpm? Is that an externally gated manifold and what turbo are you using? Thanks Tim.

    there is more chance of the manifold doing that if its not done on the inside than the ceramic coating doing it
12. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #12 8th February 2009, 18:21

    i agree the coating will be good and can withstand very hight temps
13. evo189 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 wolverhampton Posts: 155 mk 2 vtr

    #13 8th February 2009, 20:07

    less heat more power
14. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #14 8th February 2009, 22:26

    If you are worried about heat you can also get the turbine housing and down pipe coated.
15. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #15 8th February 2009, 22:27

    my manifold, housing downpipe and screamer pipe are being done and the whole exhaust system wrapped
16. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #16 8th February 2009, 22:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tweeqd my manifold, housing downpipe and screamer pipe are being done and the whole exhaust system wrapped

    You still running bang bang?
17. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #17 8th February 2009, 23:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AXracing You still running bang bang?

    ??????
18. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #18 9th February 2009, 08:15

    Anti Lag. I was just thinking that had go to result in a huge heat build up
19. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #19 9th February 2009, 15:38

    not sure, it will be there but will see how the nitrous works as ALS
20. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

    #20 9th February 2009, 16:08

    Just phoned them, they charge:
    
    £125 + vat for turbine housing
    
    £45 + Vat per foot for 3" downpipe
    
    £45 + Vat per foot of manifold (quote given when manifold received)
    
    not too bad really, think i will run my setup, see how it goes and if im having overheating problems i'll get it done
21. saxmad88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 middlesex Posts: 229 106 gti

    #21 9th February 2009, 19:35

    definately worth it. Next time mine gets taken aprat im going to get this done! On the dyno i melted dip stick, oil pressure connector and oil level sensor lol. O and melted the cool tape around my boost pipe to.
22. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #22 9th February 2009, 19:38

    dean wanna try and find someone to do us a deal.
    
    Im thinking of CC my pugsport exhaust manifold
23. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

    #23 10th February 2009, 09:14

    I would be interested in this!!
24. saxmad88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2006 middlesex Posts: 229 106 gti

    #24 14th February 2009, 16:09

    Ryan i would set one up, but it would be in a few months when im going to get mine done.
25. toger13 L-plater Joined: Mar 2007 Wakefield Posts: 54 Saxo VTS Turbo

    #25 15th February 2009, 17:22

    i have mine done manifold, turbo down pipe etc...
    
    still gets stupidly hot and needs wrapping so i wish i hadnt spent the 350 quid on the ceramic coating and had spent 100 quid on exhaust wrap to start with
    
    waste of money imo
    
    Si
26. mul_vts L-plater Joined: Jan 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 65 MgZr 1.4

    #26 15th February 2009, 19:13

    wow thats 1 crazy manifold!